Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

“I think he’s betraying a quite stupefying ignorance that makes him frankly unfit to hold the office of president of the United States.”

Guess who said that?

Exactly…. and some dude was even claiming world leaders respect Trump 🤣

Malcolm Turnball was PM of Australia when Trump was in office… and is scathing in how Trump is basically Putin's lapdog, you can see his own words in the youtube clip below. Basically Trump hero worships Putin:
“When you see Trump with Putin, as I have on a few occasions, he’s like the 12-year-old boy that goes to high school and meets the captain of the football team. ‘My hero!’ It’s really creepy…the creepiness was palpable”

America first? When America didn't have enough covid test kits, Trump secretly sent some to Putin.

Also: "Donald Trump is particularly transactional."

What lives would be saved? Do you think deaths only occur in war and not under the kind of occupation Russia would inflict on Ukraine?
Have you already forgotten Bucha?
Or is that when you just stop caring and wash your hands of it?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-10/malcolm-turnbull-donald-trump-emboldened/103961550

In fairness- her lack of appearances in public with him over the last year is Shirley exhibit a?

We don't have the exact specifics but Vance gave us some details, they go on in this report to say Zelenskyy won't agree, I'd disagree as if there's not another $180 Billion+ on the way he'll have to agree to something, Europe can't afford to make up that shortfall in funding.

Europeans leaders should resign if they let Trump own this, complete egg on their faces if the big bad orange man is the one to settle it in 24hrs.

It's quite something to see our own government not pushing for peace in Ukraine as they're bleating on about Israel every other minute when in fact it's Ukraine having the biggest effect on us. Harris goes to meet Biden and they don't chat about making peace in Ukraine, seriously how stupid is he.

In Fairness, they misconstrued 'gave' with 'leveraged'

Imagine using Boris f**king Johnson as a character reference!

Fantastic!

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

Proof positive if someone can't articulate and respond to basic challenges to their position, that is entirely discrediting of the position and it is a garbage claim.

I know it cost money to keep a war going do you think weapons grow on Trees. Cut off the money and it's over. Is that not obvious? Vance said they shouldn't be giving Ukraine any more money.

Zelenskyy will walk away with money from the deal but this time it'll be for reconstruction not destruction.

How disconnected can you be from reality when you believe Trumps claim he can end wars in 24 hours?

He is not Jared, who brought peace to the middle east. Didn't he?

If you meant cut off the money from both sides, there might be some logic to your argument (leaving morality aside). But your final sentence on Zelenskyy walking away with money for reconstruction is just about the most delusional thing you have aver ported. And that's saying quite a lot.

Trump fans don't require facts. Facts don't tend to matter when it comes to faith, and he's their God now, so no facts are required.

It's why they won't debate or listen to reason. They have faith, and faith will sustain them, and guide them into the arms of Trump, so no debate or reason is required.

"Hurricane's are caused by Democrats". - "Do you not know how powerful hurricane's are, and that the combined efforts of humanity couldn't muster a hundredth of it's power?" - Don't care, Democrats have caused it". It's the type of demented thinking that's among the Trump faithful.

It's the evangelical playbook. Make people feel like they don't need reason, don't need facts to dissuade them form the path, that as long as they have faith, then everything will be fine.

To be fair it's a powerful tool. It offers you hope, says everything will be fine, you're going to be part of a group, you belong, you're one of us, and your faith will be rewarded. There's a reason why religion is popular and cults exist.

But it requires that you just don't question things or think for yourself to make it work.

And Trumpism is a cult, with the Tangerine Tyrant as God. Logically speaking, no-one would vote for a rapist, racist, family ignoring, repeatedly bankrupt, stupid, ignorant, compliment-me-to-play-me-like-a-fiddle, compulsive liar, mentally degenerative conman, but when it becomes intertwined with religion then it doesn't matter because they have faith, and faith will sustain them.

It would be a disaster for America, and the world, should Trump win again. Not because of Trump, who's a rambling mess at the minute, but because it will show that the stupid/religious axis now controls America.

On the flip side, him winning might just see the end of America, and if it does it might just force Americans to confront the reality of their decline into moronic religious subservience.

Calling them good folk or degenerates is all the one to them, making the richer or poorer doesn't matter, they have Trump to guide them and believe them, and that's all that matters.

Either way, you can't reason with pride in stupidity turned into blind faith, which is what essentially MAGA is. There's no point in trying.