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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭mulbot


    It doesn't stop-if you know their history, and I mean, really know their history, well, that's just them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Genuine question, are you trying to justify Israel attacking UN peacekeepers by posting this, or is this just a general dig at the UN and Ireland and you're quoting that poster to do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Ireland and posters here are criticising israel for their actions. You can defend their actions if you want but don't hide behind a blanket accusation of bias.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,631 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    There ars rumours Iran's military Chief, Qanni,is under arrest. He has not been heard from in a few days.

    Who was not in the room when Nasrallah and others were taken out. I think the Iranians must have been asking that question after the death of Nasrallah and other top Hezbollah members . Perhaps it has led them to Qaani if the rumours are true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    That's interesting.

    Do you think its because Israel are the worst at not paying parking tickets?

    Or do you think the UN is a tad miffed with Israel for killing circa 30,000 women and children in Gaza, murdering journalists, medics and civilians in Lebanon and attacking UN Peacekeepers?

    Or do you think the bias is something else?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Hamas, their supports and the useful idiots helping them via their deranged far-left ideology (e.g. Gays for Palestine, which is a logical fallacy) are heading towards war alright. They do not turn turn a blind eye towards the quintessential evil of the Palestinian terrorists, they are silent or perhaps happy about it. Recall, these are the same people that can somehow 'excuse' October 7th with their dictated talking points, as if they cannot think for themselves:

    • History did not begin on October 7th. They repeat this one like they learnt it in school (= Israel has no right to exist, with all of the inevitable genocidal consequences for the Jews, as if the USA, Australia, New Zealand and all other countries were magically formed on free land, as per most countries ever if you go back far enough)
    • Oct 7th was a normal response to Israeli brutality against the terrorists (Palestinians were JUSTIFIED in their mass rape and murder of civilians! I am not making this up.)
    • Israel is targetting civilians/being indiscriminate with its attacks (clearly untrue, documented and recorded, Israel targets Hamas, who use human shields. Civilian:enemy ratio of kills in urban warfare is around 7:1. In Gaza it is only 2:1).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,631 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Is it your contention that anyone critical of Israel is inherently biased? What about bt-selem? Are they biased too?

    We see simliar sentiment expressed by Russian apologists .

    They tend to think people and organisations that are critical of the Russian state are biased. The Russian ambassador to Ireland certainly views us as being biased against Russia. Is it just a convenient tactic utilised in order to deflect valid criticism of Russia because they simply don't like Russia getting negative coverage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    yeah . Forget the UN , America will veto any resolution . The best case will be in a European court .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Seems he had a heart attack during the interrogation.

    Hamas are now accusing Iran of killing Haniyeh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Betzalel Smotrich, Minister of Finance is fond of genocidal intent, ethnic cleansing and forced displacement:

    “I don’t see a big difference between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. The Arabs are the same Arabs.”

    “The unequivocal goal of the war we are in the midst of is […] the complete dismantling of [military and] civilian capabilities”

    "Israeli minister calls for voluntary emigration of Gazans" " Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calls the move the ‘right humanitarian solution’. Critics call it ‘ethnic cleansing’."

    Minister of Finance Betzalel Smotrich, is welcoming Yesh Atid MK Ram Ben Barak to the camp of IL leaders advocating for mass population transfer from Gaza disguised as a humanitarian option



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    latest rumours is that Qaani is under house arrest and being interrogated in Iran as possible israeli spy..

    Iran's top military commander Esmail Qaani is suspected of being an Israeli spy and hasn't been seen since October 4



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,538 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Best blinkers money can buy. Deep down, I reckon a lot are embarrassed by their apologist stance but are too stubborn and entrenched to be honest with themselves. Anonymous forums and all that.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    IDF in Gaza were told in the last few days that Hamas were defeated. I think that's fairly inconvenient for your thesis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    if you've actually been reading the posts on here you'll know that quite a few have openly expressed their support for Hamas, @Meepins for example, but he appears to have dissappeared.

    Many others have expressed support for Hamas 'Right to resist' which is a roundabout way of saying that they were entitled to express their rights on Oct 7th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    If they had any decency or self awareness, they would have realised Israeli are bloodthirsty almost a year ago. By blindly supporting everything Israel did and continues to do, they deserve all their embarrassment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Safa was the head of Hezbollah logistics, called the Minister for Defense.

    A f'ing savage of a man and a terror to the people of Lebanon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,834 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Obviously Hamas in Gaza has been battered to pieces.

    How long did it take Iran to strike back at Israel? c. 200 ballistics gives them a lot of scope on how to revert, and after Israel's failures in Lebanon last time, they learnt to pick and prioritise their targets in advance.

    Planning and firing c. 200 ballistic missiles over Iraqi, Jordanian, Syrian etc. airspace, plus refuelling when presumably using F-35s and targetting specific buildings takes a lot of time and planning outside of Call of Duty.

    The Israeli response will presumably, be similar in scale, albeit with better weaponry and targetting. They will be discussing whether to hit Iran's nuclear program or oil refineries or the Guards again or whether to just take out all of their SAM and defensive arrays to leave them exposed for a following wave in case of anticipated escalation by Iran.

    Also, the US is, as always, urging restraint, as if that works in the Middle East. Luckily, for Israel, they can merrily ignore anything Biden says, as he is a political corpse after being taken out by his own party and since President Kamala will presumably turn against Israel as her far-left ideology dictates, but let's see what her partner says (and she cannot go against her handlers after watching them off Biden) so Israel may be tempted to go more gung-ho now, rather than later. These things take time. But don't worry, it is in the post. Thank goodness someone has the balls to stand up to Iran, you terrorist-apologists would not until they were at our door.

    If there was significant damage to Israel from the last attack, or the previous one, Israel would have been more likely to respond sooner rather than later. But now they can take their time and pick their targets, but it will be decided politically. Netanyahu has not outlasted every US President for the last 30 years by being foolish, he is a soldier after all (and Special Forces at that). As Bill Clinton said after meeting Netanhayu: "Who the F@#k does he think he is?! Who's the f@#king Superpower here!?" Good question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭yagan


    Most importantly for the first time under the oppression of the US armed genocidal regime there is a glimmer of hope, western countries formally recognising a Palestinian state is a major blow for Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Kamala Harris is far left? Can you point out where she has called for things such as the collective ownership of the means of production? Or are you just regurgitating American talking points?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    "Quite a few have expressed their support for Hamas".

    You've given one example. Who are the others that comprise this "quite a few"?

    Also, add in the "many others" who support the Hamas "right to resist".

    In my opinion, there are very few who have expressed support for Hamas and/or Hezbollah. There have been those who certainly have posted support but I honestly can't think of more than a couple.

    Perhaps your simply reflecting the standard view that anyone who criticises Israel is automatically a Hamas supporter?

    At least you didn't call "quite a few/many others" as anti-Semitic - I'll give you that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    To be honest when they call critics of Israel as far left when the majority of Irish public opinion and political parties are against their current policies, they are obviously stuck in the American politics echo chamber.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,975 ✭✭✭buried


    Israel is in serious trouble. The carnage response to what happened them on October 7th has gone out of all control. The Netanyahu regime has sowed the seeds for, at least, another two generations of conflict and carnage, while all the while the Netanyahu regime is solely reliant on a dysfunctional and increasingly insular looking United States to back its statelet regime. That American boomer led backing won't be there in half a generation, let alone one. When the likes and age group of Biden and Trump die, which they soon will, lets face it, in less than 10 years probably… the current Israeli regime wont have started WWIII, they'll have started the total annihilation of the trapped ghetto they have found themselves in. And nobody will come to save them.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    Yeah, they make themselves sound like useful idiots and we all know their opinion on useful idiots at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    You very clearly don't understand what you have been reading. People have explained why Hamas did what they done on Oct 7th but they never said that Hamas where right for doing what they done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,742 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Kamala will presumably turn against Israel as her far-left ideology dictates,

    Keen political insight. Off to the US election thread with you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    No conflation is necessary because the two are inextricably linked. The word Jewish is included in the definition of a Zionist.

    'Zionist: A person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.'

    It is antisemites like you who need to seperate them out in order to justify the notion that you're not targeting Jews, and just a political ideology instead, in your transparently obvious antisemitic posts.

    Who do you think you're fooling with the 'Blood Thirst' comments, another anti-semitic trope as old as time. A transparent dog whistle and nothing else.

    Mod Edit: Warning Issued for uncivil posting.

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    You are confused

    'Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in Europe in the late 19th century and aimed for the establishment of a Jewish state through the colonisation of a land outside Europe'

    It is clearly demonstrable that Israel is blood thirsty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    Great response; insults. Apologies for disturbing your cosy little world bubble.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    This thread is jam-packed with anti-semites, and you should be well aware of it as you post so much. They just insist that they are merely anti-Zionist, which of course you could be, but not in these cases.

    Meebins is the only name I can remember because I interacted with him. There were a few other short lived posters, but I'm not going back searching for them. There is another I would DM you if I could, but I'd prefer not to draw him on me.

    People who express that Oct 7th was inevitable are expressing that Hamas were justified. They weren't. It wasn't. Hamas had agency. They knew what they were doing.



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