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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,473 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Blame the director of the film Mel Brooks who was Jewish 😉

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The Law for Palestine website lists over 500 statements of Israeli Incitement to Genocide:

    Here's one particular example:

    "I am personally proud of the ruins in Gaza. Every baby, even 80 years from now, will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did."

    May Golan, Minister for the Advancement of Women



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Funny how they know where all these weapons are stored,all the time, yet didn't see the build up to the hamas attack.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Does it show the apache helicopters? Does it show the Israeli tanks point blank blowing up houses with hostages inside? Any mention of the Hannibal directive? Just because it claims to be a documentary does not mean it is factual or impartial.

    Kindly walk away with your 'thousands of years' sound bite, it bares no relevance to present day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭uptherebels




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    That's funny. As I've posted above, two Israeli historians of the Holocaust would have a drastically different opinion.

    And frankly I'd think they know far more on the matter than you or I.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    "This is a message to the people of Lebanon. Do you remember when your country was called the Pearl of the Middle East? I do. So what happened to Lebanon?

    A gang of tyrants and terrorists destroyed it.That's what happened. Lebanon was once known for its tolerance, for its beauty.

    Today, it's a place of chaos, a place of war. Israel withdrew from Lebanon 25 years ago, but the country that actually conquered Lebanon is not Israel.

    It's Iran. Iran which finances and arms Hezbollah to serve Iran's interests at Lebanon's expense. Hezbollah has turned Lebanon into a stockpile of ammunition and weapons and a Ford Iranian military base. Just one day after the October 7th massacre a year ago, Hezbollah joined the war against Israel. It launched an unprovoked attack on our cities and on our citizens. It has since fired over 8,000 missiles at Israel, killing civilians without distinctions, Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Jews.

    Israel has decided to put an end to this. We've decided to do whatever is necessary to return our people safely to their homes. Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel also has a right to win, and Israel will win.

    We've degraded Hezbollah's capabilities.We took out thousands of terrorists, including Nasrallah himself and Nasrallah's replacement and the replacement of his replacement”

    A message of hope for Lebanon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Are you talking about genocide or Israel being as bad as the Nazi's.

    Because I was't arguing that Israel isn't committing genocide, I'm no law expert.

    What I did say that claims they are just as bad as the Nazi's is very extreme and untrue. The Nazi's murdered 10m people in a few years in a state-created extermination system, and it caused the death of millions upon millions civilian more through its war strategy. Israel has killed 50,000 people during the course of attempting to eradicate Hamas/Hezbollah.

    Maybe you think those are the exact same thing, I don't, and that's certainly not to say that it's fine, justified, or in anyway OK that 50,000 people have died.

    I mean I also wouldn't say Russia is "as bad" as the Nazi's even though they're up to their hair roots in war crimes.

    It's also just not a black or white thing that if I think someone isn't as bad as the Nazis that it means I think everything is totally fine and all the killing is justified, but that's the inferral many people draw for some reason.

    That's the problem for me on this thread. People seem to think you have to have a side or that if you're arguing against some of the things posted on this thread against Israel that you're shilling for Israel.

    I'm not Israeli. I've never been to Israel. I don't think I've ever even met an Israeli person in my life. I do think the notion that Israel is the only player in this conflict that can just stop and euphoric peace will suddenly wash over the region is wishful thinking.

    Iran equally enabled a lot of this mess and yet there's some people on this thread openly praising Iran, hyping up Iran, making out that Iran is somehow justified in sponsoring fundemental terror, or that "good guy" Iran does what it does out of solidarity with Palestine….it absolutely does not.

    The whole situation is a complete mess and I don't know when, or how, it's going to get sorted out, but it's not exclusively down to any one player. Hamas, Hezbollah, Israel and Iran all have a role to play.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,421 ✭✭✭SeanW


    I don't recall anyone crying for the children in Tokyo or Berlin between 1939 and 1945.

    But please tell us how Israel is supposed to fight an all out war without collateral damage when Hamas uses Palestinian children as human shields?

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    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Well good to hear the idf have moved away from the Irish position in the Lebanon. Some good news among all the gloomy new.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Oh I dunno. When Holocaust scholars, particularly Israeli ones say that what Israel are doing is effectively a holocaust, then yeah I'd say they are as bad as the Nazi's. But then again that's just me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,993 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    This particular American is having a melt-down over the Irish peacekeepers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭TokTik


    You don’t recall?? Why the hell do you think the Geneva Conventions were drawn up??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,413 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Human shields argument is nonsense. Gaza is tiny with people packed in together - it would be like the terrorist state bombing Hong Kong daily and accusing the HK military of using the local population as 'human shields' when thousands of them start to be killed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    Well, you're an obnoxiously foul-mouthed individual, that's clear, as seen by your other posts as well.

    The post you seek is 1293.

    I look forward to see you explaining that a dystopion future in which all of humanity is crushed under the world ruling Zionist jackboot isn't an antisemitic statement.

    I realise the Jew-hate is strong in you, so you'll probably come up with something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Maybe mentioned already but an advisor to US government agencies posted ( now deleted ) suggesting Israel carpet bomb and nepalm Irish peacekeepers

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    "a dystopion future in which all of humanity is crushed under the world ruling Zionist jackboot"

    Exactly zero percent of that statement is anti-semitic.

    Here is a little clue for you:

    Anti Zionist =/= Anti-Semitism

    Clear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    The children certainly didn't start anything.

    Unfortunately some of their parents and their leaders certainly did, knowing full well what the potential response could be, and not giving a hoot.

    It there is one group of people in the world who have been truely shamefully failed by their leadership, it's the Palestinians. Arafat, Abbas, Sinwar etc, all absolute worthless dirtbags.

    Another tradegy here is that no plausible Charasmatic Palestinain leader has emerged to provide an alternative Hamas/Fatwa free vision of a future Palestine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    that and they setup camp beside the Irish UN peacekeeper outpost in the Leb, effectively using them as human shields.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    "Jews rule the world" is often expressed as "Zionists rule the world" by people who think this is a clever trick. It's the same old nonsence. He's not talking about the Mexicians. He knows his audience.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,795 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, you're an obnoxiously foul-mouthed individual, that's clear, as seen by your other posts as well.

    If I'm coarse it's because I have little time for spoofers.

    The post you seek is 1293.

    This is post 1293 from @Sand

    "The thing about Iranian politics is that only those politicians approved by the mullahs can run for office. The claims that an Iranian politician is "pro-western" has to be seen through that lens. It's a "pro-western" stance that has been reviewed and approved by the regime beforehand. At least its open and declared.

    What is sometimes unclear is the exact same process is applied for "Western leadership". Only those politicians approved by the zionist lobby can run for office. If by some system error a normal person like Jeremy Corbyn slips through the net and gets into a political leadership position, the mullahs in "the West" clamp down. Hard. Corbyn wasn't just removed from the leadership of the UK Labour Party for being insufficiently fanatical in his support of israel. That was not enough for his pro-zionist enemies. They could have just left him on the fringes, powerless, but still part of the social club that he had given all his life to. Victors often extend mercy to the defeated, but not zionists. He was expelled from the party membership to rub in the humiliation and defeat. As a warning to anyone else who might seek to enter politics without being sufficiently pro-zionist. It is their party now. It is the party of Starmer

    So, when you talk about "Western leadership", I don't think that exists anymore. There is no leadership which identifies "Western" interests and pursues them. Not in the US, not in Europe either. The extreme lengths politicians in the US and Europe go to debase and humiliate themselves for israeli interests makes more sense when it's understood you don't get elected in the west without being incredibly pro-zionist.

    As I noted in an earlier post, even those "far-right" parties the media drums up as a terrible threat to the existing order in Europe are captured by pro-zionist idealogy. To paraphrase George Orwell, If you want a picture of the future, imagine a zionist boot stamping on a human face - for ever."

    If you want to accuse someone of something as egregious as "antisemitism", you'll need more proof that anything that's contained in the post above, not that I am in full agreement with Sand's sentiments in that post. However, being anti Zionist is not the same as being antisemitic no matter how much you or your fellow travellers want it to be. One is a stance against an ideology. The other is a racist/ethnic stance. Zionism is a political ideology that's shared by Jews and non-Jews alike. Likewise anti Zionism is shared by Jew and non-Jew. I know two Israelis, personally, that are vehemently anti Zionist, whilst still being proud Israeli Jews.

    I realise the Jew-hate is strong in you

    Another completely baseless accusation.

    It seems that's all you got and at this stage and you're sounding like an absolute fool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I don't recall either - I wasn't born then.

    But please do continue to feel free to justify the deaths of ~20,000 children in whatever manner you deem justifiable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,993 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Not all Palestinians are part of hamas so it's a bit much to have a go at the parents of murdered kids because some people in Gaza voted for Hamas. I doubt the pro israeli posters would justify the death of Israeli kids in such a callous way.

    Amazing the efforts poster go to dehumanise the other side, even kids on the other side. Not an ounce of regret can be shown for their deaths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    That's the exact point. If we don't learn the lessons of history we are doomed to repeat it. That is why certain people don't like the parallels being pointed out. Presumably they want it repeated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,993 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    Ireland was created around 1922 the Irish people have been around for alot longer than that..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Altreab2


    He is an advisor to the Trump campaign and not the present administration. He also worked on the Trump peace plan for Isreal/Palistine in the last administration.

    Matthew Brodsky is a Nasty piece of work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    And "jews" have been in Ireland for hundreds of years. Doesn't mean they own the entire country and can push everyone else out and murder them at will



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,993 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




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