Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I've a bad feeling Trump is on the rise again, and has taken the momentum leading into last month.

The poor debate he had is being forgotten about, and he'll happily ignore any other debates for fear of another disaster.

Instead the aftermath of Jolene is the main talking point, and no government can provide instant relief to something like that, so there'll always be some way to knock Harris over the disaster response. He's even got his new cheerleader Musk doing pr stunts like flying in starlink supplies and cribbing that the Government is blocking him.

And my old reliable of watching DJT media shares, has seen them rising over the last week and really jumping so far today. They're still massively down on 6 months ago, but are back near $20/share when not long ago they we approaching $12 and there was talk of them zeroing out.

My god “throwing language like that around” 😀

It’s just a personal view on Harris but you’re taking this so personally - baffling

He gained far more than his Presidential salary in what he charged Secret Service at Mar-A-Lago, Bedminster and his other hotels and resorts on his many trips. Pretty much every time he played golf, his club made more money than what his salary would have been for that month because the Trump Org overcharged them. Donating his salary was entirely performative.

Being a 'great politician', at least in a democracy, is predicated on one requirement; the ability to win elections.

By that measure Bill Clinton was the best Dem retail politician since LBJ. Obama was pretty good. Hilary was pretty bad.

Yeah I take your point about “greatness” - though I have to say I was disappointed on her U turn on fracking- I also probably see her as too tied to Biden right now - not saying it’s her fault per se on that aspect - she’s juggling a lot - but I’d prefer to see more of an independent mind and thinker come through even at this late stage

Well, I am trying to define 'greatness'! I don't think I am referring to margins of victory either - but rather the ability to carve out a winning campaign by force of personality and ability to connect with voters.

Maybe I should have said 'great campaigner'!

I'll have to disagree with you on the personality front, she seems relatable enough

Honestly, this points more towards a warped perception of what people want in a national leader, and more specifically a damning review of the current state of American politics

It's all just a clash of personalities now, Harris can (and has) talked about policies that are for more sensible and grounded in reality than anything the republicans can come up with. But none of it matters because her opponent says crazy **** like immigrants are eating people's pets

As I've said before, people really need to think hard about what they want in their national leaders. I would wager that competence in administration, the ability to find consensus and keen negotiation skills are far more valuable than fiery, impassioned speeches and ideological purity

Taking an example close to home of Simon Harris, I'll be perfectly honest and admit that I wouldn't be in a hurry to head down the pub with him for a chat. Nor do I agree with every idea and policy he comes up with. However, I can't deny that he seems to work hard and seems generally capable of steering the machinery of government without crashing the whole thing. Competency over personality in this case

As for the Americans, if they're determined to turn their political establishment into an episode of Dr. Phil, then frankly they're getting what they deserve

Competency over personality in this case

Is this a wind up ?

Simon Harris is a complete and utter spoofer who isnt fit to run a corner shop.

He has messed up every Government brief he has been handed.

He is grossly incompetent, yet somehow managed to weasel his way to the top, due to Fine Gael imploding and all the rats deserting the sinking ship.

He is all that is wrong with modern day politics, all spin no substance, just like his predecessor.

Kamala Harris and Trump would both leave Simon Harris in the dust when it comes to capability and competency.

never said her U turn was corrupt - not sure where you got that from

In what seems to be an unusual move, the Daily Mail has republished a Reuters report on a thinktank estimate on how the US national debt will be increased by Trump and Harris respectively in their financial plans for the US economy. The thinktank is the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB). It reckons that Trumps plan will raise the federal debt level to US$7.5 Trillion and Harris plan will raise it to US$ 3.5 Trillion over the same time period.

The Daily Mail usually publishes stories and reports which show Trump in a favourable light so it has attached a poll result [from DailyMail.com/J.L. Partners model] putting Trump ahead and includes a mention that Musk has set up a Super PAC to aid Trumps campaign.

It is now a Category 5.

I think that in NC the Dems really need to start working hard to keep Robinson tied to Trump. Hammer home that Trump compared the Black Nazi to MLK.