Israel are going to start WWIII

I haven’t mentioned IDF solider or rape, you are spinning very hard now that you have dug yourself into a hole with your blind rage and support for terrorism

Neither was I the one who posted whataboutery on the anniversary of 7th of October like you have done as a bizzare justification for the event

Going back to the question your post raises which you keep avoiding

Does murder of X people justify murder of Y people Z time period later?

This question goes straight to the root of the insanity that prevailed in last year, which has now completely blinded people

You are delusional if you think that Mossad, one of the top intelligence agencies in the world didn't know that was coming.

Well of course America should get tough with Israel, but we all know it certainly won't happen this side of an election.

That said if America is sincere in not wanting a wider war, then there are grounds to reach a deal with Iran seeing as they both have a convergent interest to avoid an all out war. Even if any deal might be temporary if Trump gets in. I think Iran would accept if it takes the white heat away for now. Bibi can't portray Biden as a hamas / terrorist sympathiser by endorsing Israels right to respond, but behind the scenes letting Israel know that it will not support an all out war. So in effect all parties know the response will be calibrated to avoid further escalation. It's a high wire act that could go wrong, but it's better than the alternative. The war junkies on here will obviously think otherwise.

You are really hurting your credibility.

Instead of saying "yes, there were bad actors who I condemn totally and there were likely some atrocious sexual assualts carried out alongside the murders on that dreadful day, I do still believe that Hamas has a right to defend themselves against the violent and illegal occupation of Gaza from the aggressors Israel", you decide to say that it's just propaganda from Israel friendly media.

So if you think that “murder of X people justifies murder of Y people Z time period” later

Then why are you getting so upset about Israelis doing just that in last year?

is it because in your mind some piggies are more piggy than others?

BTW the correct answer to above question is no for normal people, but events of last year have completely fucked up with peoples moral compasses to the point they cheer on for terrorists on anniversary of an atrocity, by saying yes you are no better than the Israelis who you hate so much and are only pouring oil into the dumpster fire from the sidelines

And spare me the speeches about genocide, you have made it very clear you have no issues with Russian genocide of Ukrainians in other thread

Jesus Christ, she was at a concert. Unarmed. She didn't have an accident - she was attacked by men armed with guns and rocket launchers. "A little bloodied up"? FFS.

Her dead body was paraded to cheering crowds in the streets of Gaza. Men spat on it.

It's odd how there seems to be a conviction that future generations Palestinians are condemned to continue hating Israel because of what happened since Oct 7th, but no acknowledgment that the same might happen for Israelis who lived through this.

Or this:

("A little bloodied up" - really?)

Interesting. I think you might be starting to learn about the ability of one person to add words and meanings to what another never said.

Have a look at the post I made that got your blood boiling. See what it actually says, not what you think it says nor what you want it to have said.

Then ask yourself why is it valid for you to say that me posting about an event that happened one year and one day ago is justifying something you decide to add, whereas you posting about an event that happened one year ago is not justifying something I decide to add?

Apologies, I didn't assume you were defining me. You just seem to define anyone who disagrees with your stance on Israel as "Hard-Right" which I found silly and darkly amusing considering the "right" being called Nazis for the last decade or so.

I hate some people. There is no denial there.

I am more than happy to explain my hatred for people when called out on it.

I already said that I hate the jewish religion for it's stance on genital mutilation of children. That's not to say I hate all Jews.

I hate the Israeli Government for what I believe to be a disproportionate retaliation and deliberate escalation of hostility in the Middle East. Thats not to say I hate all Israelis.

I hate Hamas for their terrorism. That's not to say I hate all Palestinians.

I own my hatred of other people. I usually have a justification.

You still fail to see that the eye for an eye mentality that is so prevalent in the cultures of this region is why these conflicts will continue in perpetuity

And yes both sides here are worse than each other, something any normal person would understand by now, but yourself and others have been so blinded by rage and propaganda from both sides you are no longer capable of seeing a way out and just cheer on for your murdering side while innocent people on both sides die

But it isn't close to an eye for an eye.

At this stage Israel are inflicting about 10,000 times more pain, damage and destruction on the people of Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. It has never been an eye for an eye, it has been Israel acting as the bully boy of the region bombing people indiscriminately for decades now.

Yawn try harder. I have not attempted to justify anything based on 2 deaths, it is clear pedantry from yourself and everyone on thread can see it.

41,909 Palestinians killed and 97,303 injured in Israel's military offensive on Gaza since oct. 7, 2023 — Gaza health ministry

41k confirmed dead (not including missing under rubble) and 97k wounded. And hundreds of thousands displaced.

I ask you this - do you condemn this action by the Israelis?

First things first I already condemned earlier in thread quite clearly, what Israelis have done is not only evil but stupid

Now you answered yea here

You think that murder of 1200 people over 2 is justified, that’s 1:600 ratio btw

By your own messed up logic and the sick sick ratio Israelis should then be ok to kill up to 720,000 people, yet you moan about 42,000 (1:35 ratio nowhere near 10,000x you claim) assuming HAMAS ministry didn’t invent figures

See now the slippery black hole of stupidity your answer of yes to that core question in this war leads down to?

Iran killed two people in missile strikes (one Arab Israeli and one Palestinian) by the stupid eye for eye rules you approve of it be all cosher for Israelis now to murder 1200 Iranians

Again with the strawman. Such dishonesty. I'm almost disappointed you didn't say that linking to something that happened more than one year ago by a day is antisemitic. I actually gave two links btw.

While you yourself have admitted that zionists are allowed to rape any Palestinian man woman or child they want (If you are going to make up stuff, then I will too).

Absolute delusional head in the sand stuff.

If you've watched the HAMAS attack videos they filmed themselves, look at the way women are being treated in the videos, look at some of the wounds on the women in the videos and think none of that happened, well, I'm not sure what else to say to you really.

This is false information and it is very important it be called out on thread.

Hezbollah had a greed a ceasefire with Israelis. On the same night the Israelis dropped hundreds of tons of explosives to kill the head of Hezbollah (Nasrallah) who they had just agreed a ceasefire with.

Hamas have come very close to ceasefire agreements when talks were held in Qatar, and again in Egypt, but each time there was a deal on the horizon the hardliners in the Israeli war cabinet threatened to pull the plug on the government if a deal was agreed. Netanyahu cannot risk losing power as he is subject to criminal proceedings, so will do anything to stay in power.

The only reason ceasefire have not been agreed or hostage deals agreed is due to the actions of the Israeli government.