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Israel are going to start WWIII

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Most Irish people including myself would support Iran against the Israeli murder machine !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The quantities of weaponry that the IDF are finding in Lebanon is beyond the highest estimates.

    Another major strike in South Beirut, I've of several today, the secondary explosions from missiles cooking off, off the charts.

    Hezbollah seem to have more missiles and weapons than they could ever fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It was estimated Hezbollah had 120k rockets on the high end, what's the new estimate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    This is across the gamut.

    The quantities of anti tank, everything In fact in south Lebanon is just nuts, according to reports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    But no figures? How can you say it's beyond the estimates (which have a figure) and not know the figure?

    Are these the same twitter reports stating Israel was about to attack Iran last night and target naval assets etc….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Where do you think you are, exactly?

    The israelis are engaged in genocide, murdering tens of thousands of ordinary men, women and children. Levelling entire apartment blocks with bunker busting bombs because there might, might be one guy living there who they have a grudge against. And you're ghoulishly celebrating the israelis bombing civilians because one of the victims might be a bad guy, as if that justifies the hundreds of innocents killed in the same bombing.

    I honestly have no idea who Ibrahim Amine al-Sayyed is. But I'm sure if you bomb enough of a civilian city, you'll eventually hit a member of Hezbollah. The reality is the israeli propaganda about "We hit X. We hit Y. We hit Z" looks increasingly desperate because the idf is still getting wreaked when they try to make an incursion into Lebanon.

    You cannot kill your way out of this problem. You've been trying it for 80 years, and its not worked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,213 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    All that as it may, they must have realised such an attack would be the end. They must.

    If you're pro-Palestine you should be furious at what these individuals brought upon their own people that day and the irreparable damage done to the cause of their own people.

    A totally self inflicted disaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭Sand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    israeli approach looks fairly strategic if anything .. they have virtually wiped out the top echelon of hezbollah and another iranian quds general possibility too



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Another amazing fireworks show from secondaries, Hezbollah arms depots being blown up in Beirut by Israeli airstrikes.

    Can't but help thinking of the many civilian cvasualties from this, unless they had evacuated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Actually, I would think its operational at best. Strategically, its irrelevant. Hezbollah is seemingly defeating idf efforts to make incursions into Lebanon. It seems killing these people doesn't have any real impact on the idf's inability to defeat Hezbollah fighters. Which is a sad commentary on the idfs conscript soldiers.

    Strategically, israel is trapped in Gaza fighting a Hamas force it has failed to defeat in any meaningful way. Its access to the Red Sea ports being blockaded by the Houthis in Yemen, which again has not been defeated by either israel or the US navy. It's trapped fighting in Lebanon with Hezbollah which it has failed to defeat in any meaningful way. It has been humiliated by an Iranian strike of 180-200 ballistic missiles under which it's famed air defences failed. Its economy is on life support as its conscripts large amounts of workers to fight these failing conflicts. The north of the country is unliveable due to Hezbollah attacks. Its leadership is facing war crimes charges. The Saudis have recoiled from israel, wreaking years of US led effort to get a Saudi-Israeli treaty. Whatever prestige or diplomatic recognition israel had has plummeted after 12 months of israelis engaging in a killing rage against children, schools, hospitals and homes.

    Strategically, israel is 7 million people surrounded by 200 million plus people who they give every reason to hate them. Strategically, israel is screwed.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I hope there is an alternative. There is no military solution here, only a negotiated settlement.

    But the events of the past year have put that opportunity, if ever there were one, in the bin for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Candlel


    Speaking of land grabbing in that region, didn’t Iraq invade Kuwait.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    Also, my friend, you're downplaying the situation.

    How many did Hamas murder one year ago on this October day?

    How many did the British murder in one day in Ireland?

    Israel does have a right to defend herself.

    So why would a country like Ireland which prides herself on neutrality ( which it can't really defend anyway, but that's a different story) take sides with Hamas and Palestinians?

    How would you feel, if a number of Brits in Ireland would start some protest and walk down a major street with the Union flag? How would you feel, if I was advocating an Ireland under British rule? You'd find it as bothersome as I find the Palestinian flags in Ireland.

    It's Hamas and Hezbollah which are the ones to blame if a WWIII is started not Israel.

    Also, remember Hamas and Hezbollah are recognized as terrorist organizations, even by a country like Ireland. ( something Higgins needs to be reminded a bit more often, I think )

    I'd strongly advise the Irish public not and never to take sides with terrorists. It's the stupidest idea the Irish ever had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,862 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Strange to make a case regarding the situation in Israel/Palestine and then fail to mention all the innocents Israel has killed this last year. The current Israeli government is dragging the countries reputation through the mud with no end in sight yet some come here to have a pop at Ireland, like we have committed some crime.

    If posters want to spend their time decrying Ireland being against Israel's' actions in Gaza, that is fine. No one is going to take them seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Nobody in Ireland is defending terrorism so I think you need to avoid making stupid and false accusations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    And what are Hamas and Hesbollah and who voted for them, and who funds them? And who in Ireland is in favour of them and showing their support? Not exactly nobody.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    There were people marching in Dublin over the weekend carrying hezbollah flags and chanting 'hezbollah make us proud, burn the settlers to the ground'. So yes, there are plenty of people in Ireland defending and supporting terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    One year since Israel was attacked in a brutal surprise invasion.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    Israelis are the only ones doing the raping. We have actual evidence of them raping prisoners on camera unlike their laughable claims which are thinly veiled justifications for their evil. Anyone opposed to them is not a terrorist - they are freedom fighters. Anything done to vanquish these baby killers is completely justified. The state of Israel is illegitimate, it should be abolished and the land returned to the rightful owners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭McFly85


    It’s quite simple really. The majority of Irish people support Israel’s right to defend itself from attack, and to bring the perpetrators of any attack on their citizens to justice - but what they’re doing is not that.

    Irish people will not support indiscriminate bombing of areas that do not consider civilian casualties. They will not support the bombing of critical infrastructure such as hospitals, water supply, electricity. They will not entertain the idea that any criticism is automatically antisemitism.

    Israel have the funding and the technology to defend themselves without the need to obliterate 40,000 civilians. If they showed their goal was only in the interest of defence and made legitimate attempts to limit the amount of damage to the Palestinian people and infrastructure, they would have the majority of western support. But their actions have gone far beyond what any civilised nation should consider acceptable.

    Israel cannot continue to bomb other countries and expect the outcome at the end to be peace, which I’m fairly sure it knows. It’s actions will only result in perpetual war, and they deserve to be called out on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭halkar


    How would you feel if UK destroyed 70% of Northern Ireland and killed 10s of thousands of kids and women, forcing 2 million people to move around a small cage to kill few thousand IRA members? Hamas being the bad guys doesn't make Israel the good guys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Fighting erupting in the Gaza strip a day after the Israelis declared that Hamas have been defeated. Mission accomplished banner on loan from the US is being put back into storage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    I got what I needed for the article which is directly from an IDF official admitting they, the Israelis, fund their ISIS proxy army calling them "Syrian rebels". They get weapons, money and medical aid from Israel so they can create turmoil in countries like Iraq and Syria etc. that Iran are trying to gain ground in.

    Israel last year revealed the scope of its humanitarian assistance in Syria..

    Israel distributing food and medical aid in war ravaged areas that they are responsible for .. a very noteworthy PR moment. It's quite difficult to imagine Israelis not murdering civilians receiving aid because I know how much the bloodthirsty maniacs enjoy that. It's one for the books alright!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,511 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    And what are Hamas and Hesbollah

    They are the heroes bravely fighting against a malevolent enemy of humanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Very good question. I asked something similar already. I can guarantee that you will not get an answer from anyone on this.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭meepins


    The majority of Irish people support Israel's right to defends itself from attack

    If that's true, and I hope not, then we have much work to do educating people.



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