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OPW and projected cost of 442K for Modular Homes

  • 30-09-2024 05:19PM
    #1
    greyday
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    When scoped previously the cost was expected to be 200K per modular home that would have housed up to 4 people, the projected final cost is now 442K, between the Bike Shed, the Security Hut and now this, surely its time for some accountability and future oversight that stops this type of overspending.



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  • #2
    Andrea B.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    From today's IT

    IMG_20240930_151333.jpg


  • #3
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We really need to stop with this folly.

    Modular homes in this country are neither rapid or cheap.

    They are the polar opposite.

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #4
    Andrea B.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    They offer a value solution..…until they become Government contracts.

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #5
    Dr.Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Would it be cynical of me to think a TD's cousins daughters husband's brother may be involved in the contracts or is there zero cronyism involved in this project?

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #6
    Xterminator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,826 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Hanlons razor.

    Look at the mess they are making of the children's hospital. BAM is the developer and threes not a hint of cronyism. Simply the state cannot manage a watertight contract and manage a project. They are seen as an easy mark with an open checkbook.

    Unless there is evidence to the contrary - i will attribute it to the incompetency of the state, its lack of respect for public funds and the lack of any will to fight for value for money, as its not their money - it come from the magic money tree inside the public purse!

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  • #7
    Andrea B.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    I assume the mod homes was a tender win.

    Well I hope they have been careful with this cost "creep". If not, then I imagine the unsuccessful tender bidders would have a case?

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #8
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Follow the money 🤔

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #9
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭plodder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669074#Comment_122669074

    I agree. How hard can it be to build a modular home? I presume they have a contractor prepare a concrete base with pipes and services in the right places. Then the modular home supplier arrives plonks it in place and connects the services. How can the cost escalate so much?

    Post edited by Beasty on

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



  • #10
    enricoh
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    Think it honestly makes no odds at this stage, ff and fg could squander a million each on them n we'll re-elect them anyway!

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #11
    baldbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭baldbear


    They just don't care about tax payers. Absolutely ridiculous. Meanwhile kids are on waiting lists.

    Post edited by Beasty on


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Site works cost 18k more than expected, but the overall cost per home more than doubled....

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #13
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,076 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669206#Comment_122669206

    Because modular homes need scale, it costs a fortune to setup the factory, and no one has managed that in any country. There are a few small scale providers but no company has ever made large scale modular home building work. Modular homes have pushed as the solution to the housing crisis for several years yet they have never delivered so it's time to give up on them.

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #14
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,945 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    It's absolutely ******* ridiculous, isn't it ?



  • #15
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme


    Accountability with FF and FG in charge? Fat chance.



  • #16
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Does that even include the site?

    There's gonna be another tribunal about this isn't there

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #17
    Oscar_Madison
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669605#Comment_122669605

    how much will that cost? 🤪



  • #18
    Viscount Aggro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    Why has nobody started a new thread on the real reason behind all this?



  • #19
    tinofapples
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669605#Comment_122669605

    And here lies more of the waste of taxpayers money, tribunals that never deliver worthwhile outcomes. No one even gets sacked or jailed !!



  • #20
    SuperBowserWorld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,945 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Tribunals are just for lads to flaunt how much they got away with. It's a rite of passage. They have a little chuckle if the tribunal costs millions and runs for years. And the beauty is that they only have to say a hail mary and 4 our fathers and they go to heaven. Amazing really. So, long as you are wealthy it does not matter how you got that wealth, you will be respected. Just steer clear of anything sexually related and you'll be grand.



  • #21
    sligeach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,426 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_i-fLIvrI40

    These building companies see the Irish government coming a mile away. There's no prudence or accountability of Irish taxpayers money, the government treat it like it's an everlasting roll of toilet paper.



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  • #22
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭plodder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669446#Comment_122669446

    That doesn't explain why the price doubled from the initial estimate.

    Post edited by Beasty on

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



  • #23
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,708 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Is this OPW again??

    If so, where o where is Patrick O'Donovan?? The minister in charge.

    Do we need a search party?

    The usual FFG apologists will be on soon to say there is nothing to see here…

    Post edited by Beasty on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #24
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,708 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058371370/opw-and-projected-cost-of-442k-for-modular-homes

    That's all from 1 badly run Department. They should look at Education and Agriculture next.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #25
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,708 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669642#Comment_122669642

    I remember hearing a few years ago that Portacabins at schools are big business for those with connections to senior politicians. That building new/bigger schools for our growing population wasn't a priority when there was millions to be made on supplying Portacabins at extortionate rental costs.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #26
    Floppybits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669837#Comment_122669837

    The HSE would be number 1 on my list. Can't even imagine the waste going on there?



  • #27
    greyday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭greyday


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669889#Comment_122669889

    The indignation from Robert Watt when questioned about signing off on a potential 20 million to trinity to for the Tony Holohan placement should have set alarm bells ringing, a paltry amount it seems.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/roberty-watt-committee-5754637-May2022/



  • #28
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,180 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669446#Comment_122669446

    Why don't we just import them, these would proably come on the ferry from Spain,

    https://lascasasmodulares.es/

    Plenty of countrys make them and are in business years. There's no excuse for what the Government are after spending on these bar stupidity or criminality.

    Post edited by Beasty on


  • #29
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Here is the actual report:

    https://www.audit.gov.ie/en/publications/report%20on%20the%20accounts%20of%20the%20public%20services/report-on-the-accounts-of-the-public-services-2023.html

    See chapter 5:

    https://www.audit.gov.ie/en/find-report/publications/2024/5-delivery-of-rapid-build-housing.pdf



  • #30
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,443 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Some details:

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  • #31
    silliussoddius
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    Can it be described as rapid if the completion date changes by two years?



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