Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

I usually mess up links on here but if you google Ukraine Norway end automatic asylum loads of results should come up

I'd give that policy a couple of days at most before NGO's started encouraging male 'asylum seekers' to identify as women.

You said asylum seekers not Irish people, so I don't understand your reply.

If someone is fleeing for their lives and is put up in a hotel and getting food then why would they not be happy to be housed in a hotel.

Are you saying they expect to jump the queue ahead of Irish citizens to be housed in a housing crisis?

How do you know most asylum seekers would not be happy unless you have interacted with many of them?

Please for the love of all that is good can we stop the myth that Ireland is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. I have looked at GDP figures and we don’t even feature in the top 20. We’re a wealthy country with a high cost of living but not one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

One of the news headlines on NewsTalk radio yesterday afternoon was that just under €1bn has been spent on accommodating IPAS and UKRs in just the first six months of this year - We all know what €1bn is, but just for the hell of it I want to say it out loud -

One thousand million Euro

Very little reporting on this that I can find except the paywalled Biz post -

https://www.businesspost.ie/article/nearly-e1bn-spend-on-refugee-accommodation-in-first-half-of-2024-here-are-the-top-private-sector-e/

Google that headline -' Nearly €1bn spent on refugee housing in first half of 2024 '- and see how little it returns from RTE, The IT etc etc - As I said above, it was mentioned on news bulletins on NT yesterday but nothing on their website - was a phone call made? - That BP article gives a list of the staggering monies being paid out with the top earner being Cape Wrath Hotel Unlimited €19.1m - Further down the list we find our good friends at the D Hotel in Drogheda €5.65m and poor Paul (Townbe) from the RTE doc €5m. Now, poor Paul Collins only got the €5m from actually accommodating refugees but seems to be getting huge money for housing fresh air at the Crown paints site

https://www.thejournal.ie/coolock-site-asylum-seekers-owner-crown-6443214-Jul2024/

"Townbe hasn’t published any accounts since June 2019 and as an unlimited company isn’t required to provide information on how much profit the company is making".

Good lad Paul, don't be telling people what's really going on. Paul also has a modular homes manufacturing company which is really handy too. I think the idea was to sell a load of modular homes to the Govt and put them into the Crown paints site.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that the reported figure of €1bn in the BP, is only some of what has been spent by the Govt in that time period Q1 & Q2

The chart below is where this money is going for the IPAS - The arrowed countries below are, IMO, where the huge majority, if not all, are complete chancers and have zero legitimate reason to claim asylum (something dodgy about UKRs claiming IP too) - The people from countries without an arrow may indeed have some claim to asylum although I'm sure there are many chancers too

This has to be the greatest piss take of a country ever seen and is being facilitated by the weakest and most incompetent Government we have ever known

This Govt doesn't care about -

the money, the waste of money, the pressure on tourism, the breakdown of social cohesion, the potential of future criminal activity, the safety of its citizens, the likelihood of forever changing the country (for the worse), who's making vast fortunes off the back of this sh!t show, flinging €720m of your money at one of the most despised organisations in the country (to keep them onside) -

This Govt does care about -

getting re-elected

that's it

Great post in fairness.

All we are doing is what we done in the past without violence.

We have legalized human trafficking and are using it to exploit resources from under developed countries.

Like in the past the rich get richer and those countries get poorer.

I am certain the vast majority of people in favour of it are making money someway.

I don't understand those who use the healthcare staff as a reason for it, do they not actually care that they are taking healthcare staff from countries with poorer healthcare systems.

Far right rhetoric surely. All evidence we have by calling everybody far right racists that questions anything will show that the lads arriving in tents are nothing but a nett positive and will pay our pensions

It’s all about context. Does Ireland feel like one of the wealthiest countries in the world? As you say there are question marks of using highest GDP per capita as a measure

There are various measures that try to reflect the spending power of the average person in the a country. One of these is disposable household income per capita adjusted for PPP. This tries to measure the amount of money the average person has after tax, adjusted for the the prices of things here and also taking into account the services we get back from the State.

On this basis we're a mid-ranking EU country, below Sweden, France, Germany, Netherlands etc and a little bit above the likes of Poland, Lithuania etc.

I think the problem is that we (particularly the government) like to see ourselves as the great success story of Europe but we've been focusing on maximising GDP at the expense of the quality of life of the people. Having very lax migration controls is a symptom of this I think.

That said, of course, we're still very rich by world standards just not at the same level as the richer EU countries.

Might as well get this money and just put in a pile and burn it. Dublin's Jungle will just turn up some where else, it's just a awful scam

Well, prepare for a deluge of news around the "far right" winning the Austrian election with 30% of the vote, up from 20% last time out - in reality, this is a fairly conservative and traditional party, whose policies around immigration are clearly popular, but given that the media love everything with socialist in the name, the collapse of support for the Austrian socialists to 20% and 3rd place will be ignored as the focus will be on the "far right"

Very sensible and nuanced post especially when the ‘one of the wealthiest countries in the world’ line gets repeated so often

Ireland is new money and if it were a person it would be someone who comes into money and spends it all carelessly before ending up broke again. Which is what’s going to happen the way Irish tax payer money is wasted on this racket

Test. I can't see any posts here for almost 2 weeks.

It's so bloody scary the likes of these people entering Ireland, we have no idea who these people are, it's frightening

Careful.

You'll be classed as some kind of "anti-immigrant far right" nutjob if you keep saying stuff like that.

It's baffling how many people are ok with, and even welcome, the influx of undocumented people.