Israel are going to start WWIII

We've been told not to discuss it further on these threads. (On the other one, but I assume the logic is the same)

They intend to destroy Hamas as an organisation. If all the top Hamas officers surrendered to the IDF right now, what do you think would happen to them? If it meant the end of Hamas and their genocidal threats against Jews? They would be tried and sent to jail, but they would not be killed, because they would no longer be belligerents in a conflict, unlike (say) Hassan Nasrallah was. You remember him, right? The guy who said "there is no solution to the conflict in this region except with the disappearance of Israel" and called Israel "a cancer that must be eradicated".

Israel started it all by robbing all the locals lands along with killing a load of the natives .. Israel deserves all it gets and more - horrible evil nation

calling all the various Jewish people who settled there, “a violent terrorist cult” is really something.

Here’s a few examples of violence in that general region before ww1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3ARebellions_in_Ottoman_Syria

I don’t think it mentions the Druze Christian conflicts. Eg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_civil_conflict_in_Mount_Lebanon_and_Damascus

Plus in the wider region, the gradual establishment of Saudi Arabia was a bloody affair, over the centuries

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Saudi_Arabia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_conquest_of_Hejaz

Lots of anti jewish rhetoric here, I'd expect nothing less on this predominantly Irish board. I'm not jewish but if I were I'd expect that living here is like living in 1930s germany.

Israel has the right to defend itself, there are trees in Israel that exist from when the kingdom of israel was conquered by the romans. This is c 2000 years ago, and is older than the islamic religion, let alone those who are descended from the islamic tribes that conquered the area and attempted to kick out the jews between the 11th and 13th century. Or, you know, around the time the brits starting doing that to Ireland too.

I really don't understand the false equivalence Irish people draw between the palestinian ham*s settlers and the Irish struggle for independence.

by that of course you mean the total and unrestrained barbaric rape murder and pillage of every jew in the region followed by the rest of them world wide , not to forget the same for any christen and other sect they happen to run across in the ramage, as was shown on the 7th October when your islamic hero's got free access to its targets , men wemen and children, babes and the elderly , robbed raped and slaughtered like sheep . if you support that sort of action , im very concerned that you are out and about

Even assuming that were true for Israel, it's definitely true about America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - so are they also horrible evil nations where babies and old people deserve to be kidnapped and murdered because their nation is so evil?

And most of south and central America too - do you think Brazilians and Argentinians all deserve a similar fate? What percentage of the Argentinian population is indigenous? It's a couple of percent at most, and probably not much more in Brazil.

The Lehi group, sometimes known as the Stern gang, was a violent terrorist cult. It referred to its own members as terrorists, and it described its acts as terrorism. It carried out massacres of Palestinian villages, carried out the first truck bombing and assassinated a UN mediator. Rather infamously, they befriended and then kidnapped two British army NCOs who they hung from trees and booby trapped the bodies. Just to be dicks. While cutting down the bodies, another was injured by the booby traps. Remember, this was the same British army which had liberated the concentration camps 2 years earlier but the level of evil hatred this group had placed no value on it. The publications of the Lehi group blatantly described Arabs as a slave race which summarises the modern israeli attitude to Arabs.

In 1948, the membership of this violent terrorist cult was inducted into the newly formed israeli defence forces. Many of its members were elected to the israeli legislature. Some became journalists. One became prime minister of israel. israel so much celebrated these self described terrorists, and their role in forging israel that in 1980 they introduced a Lehi ribbon as a commemoration of its terrorist activities.

This group - evil as it clearly was - was and is embraced by israel. When we see israel carrying out blatant massacres and terrorist attacks in Gaza and now in Lebanon, its not something new. It is inherently what israel is from its formation until now.

Do the Israelis really, truly believe that they can totally get rid of Hamas and Hezbollah?

Delusional.

They defeated both before and both came back stronger and in the case of Hamas inflicted much more damage.

Israel were warned by the US not to make the same mistakes the US made post 9/11 and seems they didn't listen.

Quite possibly years from now we will hear of a massive attack on Israel and it will be a surprise to some, an escalation, a shock etc… but it will be a direct result of what Israel is doing right now. Breeding the new terrorists and recruits. It will buy Israel a few years, a decade, maybe a few etc… but they won't rid the hate until all sides treat each other as humans and not animals.

A very disingenuous post that is. The point was that they openly celebrated the 9/11 attacks in New York.

Christians and Muslims live in Israel as well. Would a Christian or Jew be welcome in West Bank or Gaza? Whatever faults are there with Israel being an apartheid state is not one of them. Our country does have a history of treating the Jewish people poorly i think. Ireland did provide Nazi war criminals with a safe haven after the second world war after all.

Possibly not but they can weaken them, and they most certainly are doing that right now.

"I'm not jewish but if I were I'd expect that living here is like living in 1930s germany"

A wee bit of an exaggeration I think.