Is getting married still worth it nowadays?

Marriage from a legal perspective is very much worth it, there are significant tax benefits and importantly more rights for a father in the unfortunate event of a break up.

Big church weddings with 300 guests followed by an expensive hotel wedding are not worth it though and it can be done in a much smaller civil ceremony (or none at all just the couple filling the forms).

Was responding so a poster saying unmarried couples should be given the same entitlements as married couples. In which case it would need the same procedures for splitting assets and parental responsibility as a normal divorce.

There's nothing whatsoever about a religious marriage that guarantees they are, or will remain so, either.

Not even remotely true, at least not solely because women have vaginas! It’s more to do with the fact that in divorce proceedings where there are children involved - the wife is more often most likely the children’s primary caregiver, and the Courts aren’t keen to see children evicted from the family home.

That’s divorce though, as in that’s the ending of a marriage. A couple would actually have to be married first, in order to get divorced, and they must have seen marriage worth it at some point in order to do so. Looking back in hindsight because the marriage didn’t work out doesn’t mean a father loses automatic guardianship rights or property rights for that matter. If there’s any outstanding loans secured against the value of the property, they still have to be paid:

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/court-rules-woman-must-pay-ex-husband-e1-6-million-in-divorce-settlement-1386498.html

Still worth it to get married? Absolutely. It offers far more security and benefits than the alternative, and because it’s a joint partnership it means both parties contributing to the relationship increases security and benefits for both parties and any children as a result of the marital relationship.

Irish Law doesn’t see it quite the same way as you do Mrs OB, not in relation to lesbian couples who become parents at least, where one spouse provides the egg, and the other provides the gestational equipment:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/same-sex-couple-both-recognised-as-parents-of-their-children-after-lengthy-campaign-1.4706046

Ne’er a mickey in sight 🤔

I think it all comes down to what you consider its "worth" to be. Worth the commitment and vows or worth the financial outgoing.

Very heavy chat for this hour of a Saturday. Have to find a light hearted topic somewhere

Those very big weddings tend to be boring and functional. Most people see weddings as a chore but those big weddings are very forgettable. Just money making exercises.

I once saw a wedding invite saying "no trash, just cash". No class. I saw another one where the bride-to-be printed her bank account and sort code on the invite! Granted she was a foreigner marrying an Irish lad.

Maybe women are more trustworthy? Men are more likely to be abusive or alcoholics etc. That probably has more to do with it than any body parts.

Yes , adoptive mothers are 2nd best. Foster mothers are 3rd best.

Sometimes, adoption is inevitable, if a woman is dead, or so badly damaged that there is no hope of her being able to parent effectively, ever.

But it should be only a last resort.

They're working off old research (or no research). The more recent research has found that the primary care giver has the big boost in oxytocin which is the hormone that causes thefamily bonds.

In the case of a single dad, the dad has the spike they usually see in women. Women are more commonly the primary care giver and they can do things like breastfeeding which also gives a boost in oxytocin. But it's not exclusive to women or mothers. It's just a function of who is the primary care giver.

If you joint buy a house and you get separated/divorced.

You're up **** creek with regards housing and also legal fees.

Just curious - If/when an unmarried couple living together have children who decides what surname their off springs have - is it up to the couple to decide or is there some law that stipulates that it must be the mothers ? Reason I ask is that one of our neighbours are in that exact situation and both their sons have their mothers surname.

That’s a bulllshyt mantra thrown out by misandrists who play the victim in some cases . Abuse happens on both sides . I know a couple of men who found themselves in an abusive relationship were the woman was the abuser . But women’s aid and courts always find against men