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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    We can add green jacket to Harris laughing to the list of trigger points.

    Yet Trumps economically insane tariff plans, nuking the border bill, simping for dictators, selling out allies and race baiting drivel about pets being eaten gets a free pass.

    Weird.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Is 'green jacket' the new 'tan suit'?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Are these nuclear weapons in the room with us right now?

    NATO has had a border with Russia since 2004. Ukraine was not in even scope of joining NATO. Being in NATO has nothing to do with nuclear weapons.

    The Russian sponsored pedophile you are relying on for your argument gets ignored on his own merits - cause it's all easily dismissable garbage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    They don't have nuclear weapons but I'm guessing this is your way of justifying the invasion....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    About the only thing I credit Trump with is the fact that he managed NOT to get the US involved in a war or border conflict. I don't know of any US Govt operation with another Govt which began AFTER he took over the administration and was NOT a legacy operation from THE or A previous administration.

    You can commend Trump for that achievement but as for genuine achievements in getting deals across the table between his Govt and another Govt which are of benefit for the US, I'd like some-one to list them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Ukraine was quite while Trump was in office , i'd personally need a couple of K of Biden bucks to compensate me for the shinannigans under Biden's watch , it will be funny if Trump gets in and Ukraine is sorted withing a year

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Trump has already made it clear how he'll handle Ukraine, he'll give Putin whatever he wants .... I have no doubt you'd classify that as a win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    "whatever he wants" is doing some heavy lifting there , peace negotiations will involve give and take, an open ended war is in nobody's interest or it will really be a war to the last Ukrainian

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Really, Ukraine was quiet? I'd have said it was bubbling away below the surface during the last three US presidencies. Ukraine was not the only territory invaded by Russia during that US Presidential period. However Trump is the president who opted to side with Putin and Russia over Zelensky and Ukraine and has continued to do so after he was not re-elected.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    it’s pretty clear his solution is to build a Time Machine and go back and have him win in 2020. Clear as day.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Yes, the only give and take in Trumps mind is that Ukraine will have to give their land away or Russia will keep taking it.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It’ll sorted alright. By giving Putin the Donbas and Crimea, promising no path for Ukraine to join NATO and possible a guarantee to Russia they can annex large parts of Georgia.

    It could be “sorted” today on the same terms.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I see you are still on about the "Border Czar" stuff. You know she never had responsibilities for the US border. She had the task to negotiate with some Central American countries on issues relating to the causes of mass migration.

    The causes are by and large dreadful economic and political circumstances in the countries concerned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    So the invader will get rewarded with Ukrainian territories, what pray tell would they be taking off of Russia? On top of that, you'd be condemning those territories to genocide by Russia. You think this would be a good precedent to create with Russia? But I have no doubt you and Trump's fans would praise him whatever happens...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    i dont see any precedent from this war except that war is expensive, the only net beneficiaries are the US and China

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    So what will be taken off of Russia? All I'm seeing in the Trump Peace scenarios is areas being taken by Russia, US sanctions getting lifted and freedom to commit genocide in those territories. And there's nothing preventing them from repeating it. Basically you want to appease the invader. Oh and take any ability away from Ukraine in terms of self determination eg joining the EU or NATO..

    Given Trump's remarks on both Zelensky and Ukraine is that he has pretty much no regard for them. He fawns over Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Heading back to my post above on what has Trump done for the US, I'd like Harris to start plugging the angle on what Trump has TAKEN from the citizens while president, where he has FAILED to ensure the taxpayers dollars were well-spent and not handed over to businesses linked to corporate buddies.

    It's not just what he had tried to deny to the citizens, a good health-care plan, it's his CONTINUING attempt to do so while out of office. Drum home the message that he wants to scupper their health-care when it is an essential item for them, asking him to explain what he gain's from doing such a dis-service to them. Household bills include the healthcare bills.

    He's been accusing Biden of malfeasance in office for years now and claiming Harris has not done her duty as V/P in certain inter-country issues. It's time to look closely at his AFFAIRS OF STATE, turn the spotlight of voters attention on how he is trying to screw them over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    The ratio of signal to noise in this thread is impressively high. 😀

    Keep watching PA, the key to this election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,612 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    So has Harris.

    She will do what she is told to do by the war hawks pulling the strings.

    In a good interview with John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs, they discusss how there is basically one deep state party in the US.

    Cheney, Harris, Biden, Nuland all in bed with each other, all singing from the same hymn sheet.

    Mearsheimer says the big question on the table is whether or not you think Trump can beat the deep state and these two established parties, and he bets against Trump.

    The full interview is on Youtube, its almost an hour long though.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/16/sachs__mearsheimer_there_is_basically_one_deep_state_party_of_cheney_harris_biden_victoria_nuland.html

    Harris will be another puppet of the Deep State, the Administrative state, a proxy President like no other.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭John arse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I can also search YouTube to find a video of two people who claim to be intelligent supporting an argument I want to be true.

    You should apply some critical analysis and voice your own opinions instead.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,028 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    So has Harris.

    Just to clarify for other posters whose eyes glaze over at the sight of another conspiraloon contribution, by this you don't mean "Harris has also made it clear how she will handle Ukraine" you mean " I know how Harris will handle Ukraine because John Mearsheimer has told us and his predictions always come to pass because He is God."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    And here we go again, the very same Mearsheimer that blames the US and NATO for the invasion of Ukraine. That's frankly nonsense and back to deep state conspiracies too. Meanwhile Russian perpetrated an invasion, they are the ones engaging in genocide.

    For a guy who is a centrist, you really don't come across as one. Do you think Russia had the right to invade Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,392 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Its the deluded ramblings of conspiracy theorists disconnected from reality safe on their ivory towers from the consequences of their drivel.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    So using your logic Russia should remove any nuclear weapons it has to more than 1300km east of its border with Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,612 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You wont hear much about that in the MSM.

    Nope but they will lambast Trump about people eating cat stories, whilst ignoring he was correct when he mentioned all the criminals, and murderers entering the country.

    How many cannibals in those figures I wonder, maybe he was right about Hannibal Lecter too.



  • Subscribers Posts: 42,874 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    there are no good choices , Russia has paid a price in loss of people and markets which will take a generation for them to digest. Europe has lost cheap energy and markets, china got a freebie and as for the US their business class made lots of money, the US captured energy markets but shoved Russia and China closer together which is an L but we will call it a net gain. Oh nearly forgot Ukraine will come out a loser, the one country that should have adopted multiculturalism.

    this is what you get with a weak not sleepy but sharp as a pin Biden, the last thing the US needs is another placeholder called Kamala. Its even dubious if Trump can make a huge difference, he essentially hired the swamp the last time Bolton and all those neocon clowns the last time so unless he has learned a few lessons since last time…..

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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