Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed

Hi. Just a question for anyone here. I've watched both documentaries again for netflix and sky. I always was of the thinking that Sophie wouldn't have frequented any of bars in schull or certainly any of the ones bailey might be in regularly. But former publican of courtyard said Sophie was often in..and by herself or whatever..but just felt that was certainly new to me..and if bailey definitely would have seen her more often that not if she was in there odd times..just a possibility maybe, as publican mentioned bailey was often in..and wouldnt care much if he never came in

I'm not sure if you're Irish but pubs in rural areas are a pretty common place for people to go even just to read books/newspapers, have lunch, tea etc. alone or with others, not just for drinking and socialising. Bailey I imagine used to frequent many of the different bars for different reasons, he was into reading poetry etc. Since they were in the same area when Sophie was in town, they most probably crossed paths (literally I mean) at some point.

Thanks for that. No I get totally what you mean. I'm Irish for sure..I was more thinking maybe they were never in same type areas..at one time on few occasions

yes that's true . no clarification of what times I guess she would be in..but yes I'm sure IB was more of night time. I see..I didn't realise that was same bar the courtyard she had scones and tea on that late afternoon.

I'm more or less trying see if bars ever crowed and they started conversation..but unlikely given Sophie's more normal lifestyle and wouldn't be late night in them.

The theory and speculation about Karl Heinz Wolney is probably met with overthinking. Mostly this is fueled by the fact that he committed suicide and stated "he'd done something terrible". I think Jim Sheridan is also rather fond of the "Wolney theory".

There is actually no evidence that Sophie ever met Wolney, nor would Wolney have known that Sophie was at her cottage.

And if Wolney did know he only found out by accident, also would have met her by accident, maybe in some pub. None of the conversations the police had with publicans and bar keepers statet that Sophie met Wolney. If so, it would have been without anybody taking notice.

There is also no history of any form of connection between Sophie and Wolney nor would there have been a motive, excpet maye and speculatively something sexual.

A very good question. I haven't read any. However if something was found indicating the responsability of the murder we would know that.

As far as I know Sophie was neither in contact with Wolney nor with Pecout. It could simply have been like they've seen light on, vaguely knew that there was a woman alone and expected something sexual, and this resulted in an argument and in an unplanned murder. Personally I don't see this as likely also there is no indication of attempted rape.

The AGS sadly can't be trusted, given their record, least of all Dermot Dwyer.

The AGS speculation hinges on the idea that Sophie knew Bailey and the arrest of Bailey hinges on false and coerced statement by Marie Farrell that he was seen a good 3 or 5 km away from the murder site, at Kealfadda bridge.

I mentioned it in the context in terms of getting a picture of Sophie's socialising while in West Cork, not really with the intention of speculating on Wolney himself.

But as for the rest of your post, it occurs to me you could easily sub in Bailey for Wolney there!

So Bailey never meeting Sophie except a disputed introduction is well documented - is there any chance that Bailey “bumped into” Sophie in the days or even hours leading up to her death and arranged to go to her house or said that he’d pay her a visit sometime or whatever?

Would this be far fetched? Just thinking out loud - IF Bailey was proved to be the murderer I’m just trying to think what would have prompted him to visit in that night.

It's a bit of a stretch for Bailey to think that 2.30am is a suitable time to visit though.

Wouldn’t in any way try to justify a visit at either 2.30am or indeed 7.30am - who knows what was in the mind of whoever did visit her that late night/early morning- I was just more thinking out loud- IF Bailey had never met Sophie, he’d have no justification , no matter how tenuous , for visiting her home, regardless of the hour.

We have testimony from Agnes Thomas, Sophie's friend, about Sophie's account of her meeting or interaction with this strange man who wrote poetry. They may also have met on Cape Clear island the previous summer at the arts festival there. Alfie Lyons was "ninety percent" certain he had introduced Sophie to Bailey at some point so given all that I assume Ian, at least, knew about her, what she did, where she lived and her habits / movements whenever she visited Ireland . It's a very small community down there.

Ian, armed with his reams of doggerel verse, fancied his chances of getting off with Sophie both at a physical and intellectual level but was firmly rebuffed and reacted to this in a violent manner.

I’ve helped clean blood from the inside of a car many many years ago (a friend of mine got attacked)- it wasn’t a huge amount of blood by any means - but there was no disputing the smell - anyone in that car for a few days after would either have smelt blood or strong cleaning fluids

What nobody seems to have considered at all is that he planned it all, basically to commit the perfect murder. It`s not that far fetched either based on what he was writing in his diary, expressing a desire to kill and contemplating making a list of people he might kill. It also had a payoff for him as a journalist. He was a violent monumental narcissist and it takes very little to set them off. It could have been as insignificant as rejection on the street on the Saturday.