Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

American racism isn't just about the treatment of black Americans. It's a vast multi racial country. There's all kinds of racism and division in America, something Irish people probably can't understand.

Speaker Johnson has managed to get the Govt funding bill passed in the house by way over the minimum number of house members from both parties without the inclusion of Trumps SAVE attachments.

However, he wants Zelensky to fire the Ukrainian Ambassador to the US after she arranged for her president to visit a munitions factory in Scranton, Pennsylvania, accusing her of interfering in the ongoing US presidential election. This may be taken to be a sign that Johnson is not sure Pennsylvania is a cert for the GOP and Trump.

Well Irish people probably can understand that, due to being a colony itself (the longest one under British rule), and there has been levels of oppression directed at Irish people throughout that, and even after.

However, America is far more diverse in that regard, you are bang on that it is not just limited to black Americans. It goes far deeper than that. The division is generational in many regards also, so it will linger on for a long time yet.

Even after this election, I still see a division of sorts getting stronger in the short term.

Ireland was never a colony of Britain. We sent MPs to Westminster. Colonies were ruled directly from London without any representation in Parliament. This was not the case for Ireland.

Ehhh what? Ireland was most definitely a colony.

Ireland was colonised in the 12th century, it ramped up after that with military campaigns, plantation systems, and policies aimed at consolidating control over the island (the penal laws). The Kingdom of Ireland was established in 1541, but it remained under the rule of the English Crown.

There was the act of union in 1801 that merged both kingdoms and that lasted until 1922.

**Going off topic so let's leave it there :)

Ireland was arguably a colony even up until 1921. Very much the poor, impoverished relation of Great Britain, seen as being different because of Catholicism and often subjected to widespread racism in the English press. There was no sense of it being an 'equal partner' within the United Kingdom.

If you're telling me you would have guessed 8 years ago that a sitting member of congress, spurred on by a convicted felon, makes a disgusting racist statement like that online and has the confidence to remain unrepentant...

Nothing weird about caring about racism being peddled in an interconnected social media world.

What is weird is if you post this, and then pop up with criticisms of Democrats wouldn't it?

Demonstrating beyond doubt that your "just observers" line was a total cop out?

I think in this election we are going to find out how racist America really is

And misogynistic.

Clinton was right and should never walked back the basket of deplorables comment.

These racist violent cretins don't get elected without like minded people voting for them.

You think it's only white people who are racist in America?

I and others have said it for a while, Trump is less interested in reaching a peaceful end to Russia's invasion, he's made it clear that he'll do whatever Russia wants. The fans of Trump in Europe are by default supporting Russia imho.

https://newrepublic.com/post/186382/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-ukraine

The Munich Agreement in 1938 allowed Germany to annex Czechoslovakia in the name of peace. The agreement was signed on 30 September 1938. By the 3rd of September 1939, Europe was at war with Germany.

As the saying goes, "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

Several European nations arose out of armed revolutions (having one was all the rage in the 1790s) and have not been shy about importing slaves either, so that hardly makes the US unique in that regard.

For years, I used to joke about how "America" was a problem of our (European) making, seeing as we sent all our oddballs, societal misfits and general no-hopers off to the "New World" just to get rid of them. Upon mature reflection, maybe it's not so much of a joke.

Since the "New World" was discovered, it's attracted wave after wave after wave of immigrants who - whether through persecution or voluntary choice - wanted to continue leading their old European way of life rather than convert/adapt to the changes taking place at home.

It makes sense, then, that so much of their cultural baggage is rooted in a hostile "them and us" attitude, with the patriotic "us" camp being staunchly conservative. Translated into modern politics, this group see themselves being attacked yet again by revolutionaries who threaten their 18th Century beliefs. They are blind to the irony that those who they brand "leftist" and "commies" are still "right wing Americans" by our old-world European eyes.

I am less concerned about the state of America internally, which is essentially their choice and let them get on with it, as the effect it will have on the rest of the world, and Europe particularly, if Trump gets in.

Not only the consequences for Ukraine and anywhere else that they get involved with, or fail to get involved with, and the longer term fall out - Russia is allowed to annex whatever it wants of Ukraine in the interests of 'peace', but then moves on to other eastern European countries that the EU and Nato have an obligation to.

In the meantime how will the other 5 Eyes countries deal with agreements to share intelligence? How can they give Trump information in the knowledge that it will be randomly passed on to Putin and any other leaders he wants to impress? Is the international 'clout' of the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand enough for it to even be an issue except at a local level?

How will all the US trade agreements work with the proposed tarriffs that he is so keen on? I don't see them as being any more likely to happen than Mexico paying for the wall, but if he did push it through, how does that affect international trade?

Whatever about his extreme stupidity and corruption, and his equally stupid cult followers, his inability to work at international levels, and his proximity to the vast power of the US's military might could threaten world peace (such as it is). Would other countries just sit and wait to see what happens?

To be selfish about it, we should be very worried about what Trumpenomics might mean for Ireland. His instincts are extremely protectionist and anti the established order that has served us so well.

Any policy that reversed the tide of US FDI here would be disastrous. It would make 2008 look like a picnic.