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Building costs. Jan 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Ya you would be going looking at prices at that stage. However you could be sussing out your engineer while planning is in progress if it not the lad doing the house plan's that is doing the certification for you.

    Watch the extra they will probably quote you two rows 18'' to floor level watch the extra if it's going beyond that. Make sure you are not modifying after construction drawing are in place no matter what the better half wants. Same with specifications for Kitchen, bathroom, on suites etc. That is where costs can go completely out of control.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭snl rory


    Thanks will stay in touch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    That was my plan, well I was always going to put in the foundation for the garage but not build it for now. Then there was delays midway though building the house and blocklayer asked would he do the garage or else he had to move to another job so I built it in the end. Very glad I did now, its been brilliant for storage as was roofed well ahead of the house and keeps stuff out of the way. Also means Ive been able to locate the attic tank and water pump in the garage rather than in the attic which has a number of advantages and is preferred by many plumbers these-days if feasible.

    Cost wise definitely doing it for less as most trades with having the house the garage gets done for a bit extra (usually cash) - can't see lads coming to site and getting setup specifically for the garage for the same money many charged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭ec18


    any guesses on what the current costs would be in Dublin / North Kildare area for a new build? Site has no access issues or anything unusual about it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭kieran.


    Do not under any circumstances go ahead a plough your savings into a build with a view to getting a mortgage later. I have seen serveral times over the years peple go this route and not get approval for the a mortgage due to changes in rules / personal circumstances. Get the Mortgage and make a small drawdown say 10k and that locks in the mortgage agreement and then use your savings if you wish. Remember you only have to pay back on the mortgage amount drawn down so the payment on 10k would be nominal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    The bank are unlikely to allow a 10k drawdown, minimum on mine is 20k. However they also had a stipulation that I could not make a drawdown until I had spent a certain amount of my own money. I had full approval etc and everything signed off but until I’d spent a (fairly significant sum) then no drawdown would be sanctioned.

    Post edited by SodiumCooled on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭Tileman


    I built the house and put in the base for the garage when I built it. Mine was an all in cost with builder for house and he was looking for too much for the garage I felt. Got the names and numbers of all the tradesmen the builder used and put up the garage after. However the price of materials etc went up in the meantime so it probably cost me more. However as I tweaked the design slightly I got a nicer design but if you can afford it now put it up. It is so handy for when you’re building the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    Typo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    Have a bungalow and in tallaght, looking at getting something similar done. Did you get anywhere with quotes?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    We are actively looking at getting quotes now.

    I sent our architect plans to a company and they asked for €800 + VAT for a basic quote using our architect plans or €6,000 + VAT for an in depth quote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I would be looking for another company or builder to get a quote

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭eamondunphy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    Now looking like 2026 before we start anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    typo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    did you get any ballpark figures, will hopefully start enquires later this year myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭dollylama


    Are material prices coming down, holding or increasing? Shortage of trades seems to be a big problem too and the trades that are there are naming their price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭crinkley


    for me insulation and concrete have all gone up in the last couple of months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    First st quote back was €85,000 - €90,000



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭obi604


    I am the original poster from Jan 2023 😬

    Over 1.5 years have passed since I posted

    High level, right now versus then : I guess costs have continued to go up?

    Post edited by obi604 on


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Yes! Material prices have stabilsed, to some extent, but labour costs continuing to rise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭obi604




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    For this, my original post from a few months ago.

    We are in a bungalow and looking to do a job in our attic in West Dublin.

    Job will be Remove roof, new stairs, add two dormers, increase overall height by about 2ft and put two new bedrooms, a new bathroom and a small office up there.

    The space is 35sqm. All planing has been approved.

    Pre Covid our quotes were:

    Builder 1 €87k

    Builder 2 €98k

    Builder 3 €133k

    Builder 4 €154k

    Going to start trying to get new quotes in the next few months and I don't know what to expect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Is the range in the quote due to something being excluded or is it an estimate rather than quote?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭j14


    No, all builders visited the house and all builders quoted for the same job.

    The €154k quote included mood boards and vision boards and 3D Renders with AI and physical models and all sorts of madness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,183 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    In hindsight the two quotes sub 100k were good prices. Problem now is will these lads quote again. In theory it's not a extremely difficult job and could be completed in 100 days if everything went to plan. You are probably looking at a minimum costbof 300/sqft or 110-115k.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭DrPsychia


    Just because the tender is cheap, doesn't mean the quality of work will be good, although the same can also be said for the most expensive.

    You have to question, how can Builder A undercut all the other builders by such a considerable margin. What corners will they cut? Ask for a breakdown of estimated costs. Consult a Quantity Surveyor to get a reasonable idea.

    Buying cheap often leads to buying twice, this translates to everything from tools to building works, based on my experience. I think it would be worth hiring a building engineer to periodically inspect the work at different stages to ensure work is done properly, regardless of who you hire.

    I worked with a guy that built a new house in Wicklow a few years ago, he went with a cheap quote from a family run business. He had nothing but problems. His house is draughty, airtightness is a problem, UFH causing lots of bother. There are lots of small but super important details to building a modern, warm home/extension. Get those details wrong and you'll have problems. Some builders/tradesmen, even those with lots of experience, are quite dismissive of current best practices for insulation/ventilation/airtightness. There are some fantastic tradesmen who are very knowledgeable and love to discuss detail, but they are usually expensive.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Some builders/tradesmen, even those with lots of experience, are quite dismissive of current best practices for insulation/ventilation/airtightness.

    Agreed!



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