Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

But he must have been talking about nazis there were only nazis there.

So Trump called nazis fine people. Statement of fact.

He told them what they wanted to hear
You can go to a rally, start a riot, and spout anti semitic drivel about Jews and Trump as President of the US will call you 'fine people'. That is the takeaway the nazi scum took from the racist scumbag Trump.

Trump was talking out of both sides of his mouth as usual. And fooled you.

How many of Trump's lies and double dealing are you going to fall for before you start questioning the source?

You absolutely are. Would you attend a rally that consists of Neo Nazis and White Supremacists? Can you point to a single person on the side of Kessler and Spencer that wasn't a Neo Nazi or white supremacist? Just the one. The question then becomes why did Trump use that phrasing.

The logical conclusion is that the people who attended who say they're not white supremacists or Neo Nazis but use some cleaned up phrases such as "racial purists" then conclude they're some of the fine people who Trump is referring to. But ultimately they're still the same kind of scum that Trump wants the vote of.

Have you accepted it was a Neo Nazi March yet?

Can you give me a list of attendees? Maybe you can prove they were all white supremacists or neo nazis? How many attended? How many identified form each group that was there? DO you have a breakdown of cohort?

That was already provided:

Trump has you sussed alright. He can put out whatever ridiculous offensive racist drivel and lies and know there are those who will lap it up without scrutiny and go to bat for him on a social media. You are the one giving him a free pass for his blatant racism and attempts to steal the last election. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil when it comes to Trump, that has been proven by your posts here.

Yep, the words are there and the facts are there and the pictures of the rally on the thread showing the Nazi scum and their paraphernalia. Trump called nazis at the rally \ riot fine people, because as has been established it was a Nazi rally organised by Nazis for Nazis. And if you turn up at such a rally and participate, you're a Nazi racist scumbag too. The flags are a bit of a giveaway.
So those are fine people in Trump's descriptions - racist scum.

Why are you defending a racist scumbag who calls Nazis fine people?

And objectively, Trump is a racist pumping out racist drivel.

First, thank you for the detailed response.

On Trump's character. Not sure how you can write all those negatives about him and still want to defend him. There is nothing in your list of character traits that would make one think that he would make a good politician.

How can you say that he speaks what is on his mind, and then spend so long stating that what he said he didn't mean?

I did notice that you left out he was a serial cheater, a constant liar, a wannabe dictator, a democracy denier, a fraudster, has a record of stiffing on payments, has a huge amount of people that worked for him detests him and never want to work with him again.

On your list of what he did that made his last POTUS term as great.

CT. This was a net negative to the country. Massive tax breaks that didn't come near to stimulating the growth needed to pay for it. His growth rates were in line with previous POTUS, without the need for such a massive giveaway.

Judicial appointments. I agree that this is a positive for right-wing thinkers, but this is not something Trump has control over. If people hadn't died when he was POTUS it wouldn't have happened and clearly, Trump was merely delivering to those who helped him get into power. The right wind and evangelicals helped him get power and this was their payback. But he cannot promise to be able to repeat it.

Deregulation. Like Brexit, the cry to deregulate always sounds great. But regulations are, mainly, made to protect the majority from the excesses of the controlling minority.

1st Steps act - Agree on this, but it flies in the face of almost everything he stands for.

Covid Response - This was a complete disaster. He denied it, attacked those who wanted to take action, openly attacked the medical experts, and focused more on himself and his ratings that saved people's lives. Reports state that Warpspeed was mainly due to Trump getting out of the way and letting those best placed take control. And remember that Trump defunded the China medicines taskforce that was tasked with watching out for early warning about any potential issues.

ME - He was responsible for stoking the tensions that finally blew up, after years of planning. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem in a move he knew would antagonise the Palestinians and the rest of the region. He planted the seeds of what we are now living through.

His continued acquiescence to Russia, including his continued denouncing of NATO, led Putin to believe that the West had lost its appetite and ability to stand up to him. This was given more belief when Trump showed that he wasn't going to support Ukraine unless they gave him what he wanted and Putin took that to mean he could plan the attack. Biden should have been far more unequivocal with Putin and should have made more of an effort to show that despite Trump's effort NATO was still together and willing to do whatever was necessary. But, like the ME, the seeds were sown by Trump

Trump was as pro-war as every other POTUS. The US, itself, is pro-war. It actively enables conflict around the world, either directly or indriectly, in order to achieve it strategic goals. Trump poured even more money into the deep military complex. He inflamed tensions with Iran for example. He stated several times that he welcomed the opportunity to enter into war. Timing was all that was the difference between himself and other POTUS.

Jobs growth is better under Biden and Trump's jobs growth was nothing particularly impressive. Obama delivered more.

Crime has reduced under Biden.

In the run up to the election, Melania comes out in the much anticipated message of support of her husband!

*Checks earpiece*

Sorry... Not her husband.

It's... In defence of her nude photos?

Ah would ya stop.

Those are all the organizations that attended.

If 2 Nazis from a Nazi org are joined in a rally by 1 'fine person,' you have 3 Nazis.

Let me know when you find any of the "fine people" but anyway, the central point is that what Kamala Harris said at the debate is objectively and categorically true:

✅ a mob was carrying tiki torches

✅ they were spewing antisemitic hate

✅ as President, Trump said there were "[very] fine people, on [both] sides"

Feel free to debunk any of those claims.

I think it's fair to say you're by default a **** person if you attend a rally organised by Neo Nazis.... Think it's a pretty reasonable position.