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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • #2102
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,048 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626147#Comment_122626147

    Yeah, he doesn't try to hide it at all. In fact, he's laughing about it so openly and brazenly that it's almost like they're laughing about how hysterical Trump fans have been about trying to claim it's undemocratic and their plan all along and Biden was a patsy, just because it reduced Trump's election chances.

    Sorry, but they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you.



  • #2103
    RickBlaine
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    It is possible for stupid people to fail upwards, just look at Liz Truss.



  • #2104
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626136#Comment_122626136

    The 538 by ABC news who have cheated in the debate…………………… cool



  • #2105
    duploelabs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626052#Comment_122626052

    Name the 600



  • #2106
    ronjo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626052#Comment_122626052

    Trump really has had 600 businesses?

    Is there a list ?



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  • #2107
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626143#Comment_122626143

    Which is why 2 people tried to kill him

    Try to keep up with facts



  • #2108
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626163#Comment_122626163

    So you dont have a success rate %?

    So how do you determine he is good or bad at business when you dont know his success rate?



  • #2109
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626182#Comment_122626182

    No

    Google it



  • #2110
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626184#Comment_122626184

    Probably.

    Here is ChatGPT answering. They say over 500. I said 600.

    It's challenging to give an exact total number of businesses and properties owned or previously owned by Donald Trump due to the complexity and evolution of his business empire. However, here’s a rough breakdown:

    1. Trump Organization (umbrella entity for many businesses)
    2. Trump Tower (New York City)
    3. Trump International Hotel and Tower (various locations)
    4. Trump National Doral Miami
    5. Trump National Golf Club (several locations)
    6. Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (Atlantic City, now closed)
    7. Trump Taj Mahal (Atlantic City, now closed)
    8. Trump Marina (Atlantic City, sold and rebranded)
    9. Trump Entertainment Resorts (formerly managing Atlantic City casinos)
    10. Trump Winery (Virginia)
    11. Trump Golf Links (various locations)

    This list includes several key entities and properties, but the total number of distinct businesses and properties, including smaller or less well-known ventures, could be higher. Estimates suggest that the Trump Organization has managed over 500 different properties and investments in its history.



    Even if you take 500. What is his success/failure rate?

    People spouting nonsense in here



  • #2111
    duploelabs
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626201#Comment_122626201

    You made the claim that he's 600 business, back that claim up



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  • #2112
    eightieschewbaccy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626172#Comment_122626172

    In relation to saying you saw something on YouTube and Twitter and using that as proof. That's pretty inadequate. So you've been claiming illegal immigrants are stealing pets and eating them. Should be easy to provide news articles on the spate of such killings. Shouldn't be just based on a weird ass video you found on Twitter. And given the fact you've outright lied on this thread more than once, I'm inclined to say your sources are questionable.

    I think your priorities are pretty warped tbh. Have the FBI or law enforcement said that the Democratic party's rhetoric is responsible for the actions of either Crooks or Routh? So it's more like speculative fiction to jump to the conclusion you want.



  • #2113
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626212#Comment_122626212

    ChatGPT is a large language model, not a verifiable source. Do better



  • #2114
    ronjo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626052#Comment_122626052

    seems more failed

    He has had 13 of his businesses fail and 6 of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy.

    Trump’s failed businesses:

    1. Trump Steaks

    2. GoTrump

    3. Trump Airlines

    4. Trump Vodka

    5. Trump Mortgage

    6. Trump: The Game

    7. Trump Magazine

    8. Trump University

    9. Trump Ice

    10. The New Jersey Generals

    11. Tour de Trump

    12. Trump Network

    13. Trumped!

    Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

    1. Trump Taj Mahal

    2. Trump’s Castle

    3. Trump Plaza Casinos

    4. Trump Plaza Hotel

    5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

    6. Trump Entertainment Resorts



  • #2115
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626246#Comment_122626246

    Also they seem to have forgotten that he's been caught and lost his case in relation to fraud in the last year…



  • #2116
    sydthebeat
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626197#Comment_122626197

    the argument is Trump is not stupid.

    he patently is.

    try to keep up at the back please…..



  • #2117
    astrofool
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122625840#Comment_122625840

    Well, we've gone from democrat to "mostly" a democrat (what % are you going to dig this up towards?). He voted for trump then stopped voting for trump after putin cuckolded trump. I wouldn't call that a democrat, more like an anti-trumper.

    Keep going with the pets, it gets more ludicrous the more trumpers engage on it :)

    Im not an anti vaxxer. But I also dont think the biden admin were right to tell public sector to jab up or get a new job.

    So, trumps disinfectant jabs instead?



  • #2118
    Quin_Dub
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626184#Comment_122626184

    You need a lot of shell corps to hide the laundry…

    It was worked out a couple of years ago that had Trump simply put the $400m+ that he got from his father into a fairly standard index linked unit fund, he would have about 3 to 4 times as much money as he does today.

    So essentially , his business acumen has delivered somewhere between -60% and -75% net returns over the last 40 years or so.

    In Real Estate , not high tech etc. , Real Estate the most reliable long term investment there is.



  • #2119
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626147#Comment_122626147

    Another tweet dump.

    MAGA kept moaning about Biden being unfit for office and now they're wailing because they wish he was back.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #2120
    ancapailldorcha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,173 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626108#Comment_122626108

    I didn't think you needed that level of spoonfeeding.

    Since you've no proof for your conspiracy theories, let's call it a day.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #2121
    eightieschewbaccy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626285#Comment_122626285

    The most telling part is that a lot of the discomfort that @MisterAnarchy and @Redliketoast have with Harris is the fact that they know she has a strong chance of beating him. If Trump loses in November, I expect them to push further claims of it being undemocratic in spite of the fact she's the preferred pick by the public.

    Also they would absolutely downplay any violence by Trump supporters etc.



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  • #2122
    VinLieger
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626022#Comment_122626022

    Im well aware of the issue which is why i find his attempt to explain it and his fantastical solution so hilarious



  • #2123
    odyssey06
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    Seen on Twitter…

    Pretty sure at this point JD Vance and Trump have directly caused more issues for the citizens of Springfield than any immigrant has.

    JD Vance just financially devastated a town in the state he represents...Imagine what he and Trump will do to our country. Please pass this on.

    A reminder that the race baiting and inciting racial hated with madeup racist vomit about pets being eaten has real world consequences, no matter what Jesuitical defences are mounted:

    The city of Springfield, Ohio, is stepping up security as viral, false claims about Haitian immigrants stealing and eating pets continue to circulate after being amplified by former President Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance. Gov. Mike DeWine announced Monday afternoon he was sending three dozen state troopers to provide added security to schools in the city after a "series of unfounded bomb threats."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/springfield-ohio-security-false-claims-about-haitian-immigrants-bomb-threats/

    https://x.com/RobertCStern/status/1835828546050162803

    https://x.com/acnewsitics/status/1835830785393176993

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2124
    odyssey06
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    Remember folks.

    A Republican who had voted for Trump, using a weapon Democrats want to ban, tried to shoot Trump but something something it is the fault of Democrats.

    If you believe that you'll believe anything.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2125
    Water John
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626246#Comment_122626246

    Leave room for Truth Social and World Liberty Financial.



  • #2126
    nachouser
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    "They're EATING the DAWGS."



  • #2127
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,752 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Another day, another piece of fascist racism from a Trump supporter.
    But maybe some people here think calling immigrants locusts like this should be ok.

    Republican Portage County, Ohio Sheriff Bruce Zuchowski posted an alarming message on Facebook over the weekend, calling on constituents to identify the homes of Kamala Harris supporters by lawn signs so they can be made to house immigrants, whom he called "locusts."

    https://meidasnews.com/news/ohio-sheriff-asks-residents-to-track-homes-with-harris-lawn-signs-calls-immigrants-locusts

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2128
    aloyisious
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    Trump criticized Musk over his now deleted tweet about Harris and Biden being shot being followed up by a member of the Libertarian Party, New Hampshire, named as Jeremy Kauffman, tweeting that anyone shooting Harris would be an American Hero shows there is a very important need for Trump to state publicly that assassinating US politicians is a crime and not the act of a hero.

    The Kauffman tweet was deleted. The FBI visited Kauffman to interview him about his "assassination" tweet statement. According to different media sources there have been conflicting statements issued by the Libertarian Party on the tweet. The Washing Examiner that the party has walked back on the tweet and the New Republic that the party has doubled down on the tweet.

    What's needed now is a press call from all four candidates to condemn such messages completely with an added request from the 4 that any such assassination tweets be reported to the FBI, ASAP.



  • #2129
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626302#Comment_122626302

    The way you lot are downplaying actual assassination attempts. Where is the violence being directed again?



  • #2130
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626287#Comment_122626287

    No conspiracy theories. Just facts that you seem too ignorant for

    Uncivil - warned and one day forum ban applied

    Post edited by Beasty on


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  • #2131
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626246#Comment_122626246

    Jesus some people are draining. Here is a list. It is a lot of his companies but not ALL. Ive also provided a list of notable failed businesses. This failed list is also not complete.

    The question is, is his success rate higher or lower than the average success rate of businesses?

    The answer is much much higher. There are reasons for that but Im not going to waste my time on giving insight into something I doubt you actually care about

    Expanded List of Trump Businesses

    Real Estate Holdings & Development

    1. 1290 Avenue of the Americas LLC
    2. 40 Wall Street LLC
    3. 610 Park Avenue Associates LLC
    4. Barrow Street Associates LLC
    5. BHDT Golf LLC
    6. Central Park South Associates LLC
    7. CH Golf LLC
    8. DJT Holdings LLC
    9. Eric Trump Wine Manufacturing LLC
    10. Fountainbleu Management Co.
    11. Highland Golf Management LLC
    12. Trump Chicago Hotel Management LLC
    13. Trump Las Vegas Sales & Leasing LLC
    14. Trump Management Inc.
    15. Trump Old Post Office LLC
    16. Trump National Golf Club Bedminster LLC
    17. Trump National Golf Club Washington, D.C. LLC
    18. Trump International Golf Links Scotland LLC
    19. Trump SoHo Condominium Hotel LLC
    20. Trump National Golf Club Westchester LLC
    21. Trump Tower at City Center LLC
    22. Trump World Tower LLC
    23. Trump Parc LLC
    24. Trump International Hotel & Tower New York LLC
    25. Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago LLC
    26. Trump Park Residences LLC
    27. Trump Tower Punta del Este LLC (Uruguay)
    28. Trump Parc East LLC
    29. Trump Turnberry Scotland Ltd.
    30. DJT Operations I LLC
    31. DJT Operations II LLC
    32. Trump Plaza Associates
    33. Trump Bay Street LLC (Jersey City)
    34. Trump Tower Istanbul LLC (Turkey – branding deal)
    35. Trump Towers Pune LLC (India – branding deal)
    36. Trump International Realty LLC
    37. Trump Ferry Point LLC (New York City)
    38. Trump International Hotel Las Vegas LLC
    39. Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver LLC
    40. Trump Palace LLC
    41. Trump National Golf Club Charlotte LLC
    42. Trump National Doral Miami LLC
    43. Trump Tower Philadelphia LLC
    44. Trump International Hotel Waikiki LLC
    45. Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts LLC

    Golf Courses

    1. Trump National Golf Club Bedminster
    2. Trump National Golf Club Charlotte
    3. Trump National Golf Club Hudson Valley
    4. Trump National Golf Club Jupiter
    5. Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles
    6. Trump National Golf Club Philadelphia
    7. Trump National Golf Club Washington, D.C.
    8. Trump National Golf Club Westchester
    9. Trump International Golf Club Palm Beach
    10. Trump Turnberry (Scotland)
    11. Trump International Golf Links & Hotel Doonbeg (Ireland)
    12. Trump International Golf Links Aberdeen (Scotland)
    13. Trump National Doral Miami (Florida)
    14. Trump Ferry Point (New York City)

    Hotels & Resorts

    1. Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C. (Old Post Office Pavilion – sold)
    2. Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago
    3. Trump International Hotel & Tower Las Vegas
    4. Trump International Hotel & Tower New York
    5. Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver (Canada)
    6. Trump International Hotel Waikiki (Hawaii)
    7. Trump National Doral Miami
    8. Trump International Hotel and Tower Punta del Este (Uruguay)
    9. Trump Turnberry Resort (Scotland)

    Branding & Licensing

    1. Trump Home (furniture and home goods)
    2. Trump Ice (bottled water)
    3. Trump Steaks (high-end beef)
    4. Trump Vodka
    5. Trump: The Game (board game)
    6. Trump University (real estate education)
    7. Trump Mortgage
    8. Trump Model Management
    9. Trump Wines (formerly Kluge Estate Winery, Virginia)
    10. Trump Magazine
    11. Trump Clothing Line (via Macy’s – discontinued)
    12. Trump Shuttle (airline service)
    13. Trump Financial (mortgages)
    14. Trump Chocolate
    15. Trump Fragrances (Donald Trump Signature Collection by Estee Lauder)
    16. Trump Institute (real estate training)
    17. Trump Water
    18. Trump Network (health and wellness products – multi-level marketing)
    19. Trump Productions (TV production company)
    20. Trump Books (authored/co-authored books)

    Failed or Defunct Businesses

    Trump has had his share of failed ventures over the years, and some of them resulted in significant financial losses, legal troubles, or bankruptcy filings. Here are some of the most notable business failures:

    1. Trump University (2005-2010)

    • What it was: A for-profit education program offering courses in real estate and entrepreneurship.
    • Failure: The program was accused of fraud, resulting in multiple lawsuits. Trump eventually settled a class-action lawsuit for $25 million in 2016.

    2. Trump Steaks (2007-2008)

    • What it was: Premium beef steaks sold through The Sharper Image and other retailers.
    • Failure: The product did not sell well and was discontinued after about two months.

    3. Trump Vodka (2006-2011)

    • What it was: A luxury vodka brand that was marketed as "success distilled."
    • Failure: The brand failed to gain traction, and production stopped after a few years.

    4. Trump Airlines (1989-1992)

    • What it was: A luxury shuttle service between New York, Boston, and Washington, D.C., purchased from Eastern Air Lines.
    • Failure: Despite high expectations, the airline was unable to make a profit and was sold to USAir.

    5. Trump Mortgage (2006-2007)

    • What it was: A mortgage company launched just before the housing market crash.
    • Failure: The company folded within a year due to poor timing and a lack of business.

    6. Trump Casinos (Atlantic City, NJ)

    • Trump Taj Mahal (1990-2016): Once billed as the "eighth wonder of the world," the casino struggled with debt for years and went through multiple bankruptcies before being sold and rebranded as a Hard Rock Hotel & Casino.
    • Trump Plaza (1984-2014): Closed due to financial difficulties.
    • Trump Marina (1985-2011): Sold and rebranded.
    • Trump World's Fair Casino (1996-1999): Closed and demolished after failing to perform financially.

    7. Trump Magazine (2007-2009)

    • What it was: A luxury lifestyle magazine targeting affluent readers.
    • Failure: The magazine folded after a few years due to the financial crisis and lack of advertisers.

    8. Trump Network (2009-2012)

    • What it was: A multi-level marketing company selling health and wellness products.
    • Failure: Despite high hopes, the company did not succeed and was sold off in 2012.

    9. GoTrump.com (2006-2007)

    • What it was: A travel website aimed at competing with Expedia and Travelocity.
    • Failure: The site shut down after only a year of operations due to poor sales.

    10. Trump the Game (1989 & 2004)

    • What it was: A Monopoly-like board game.
    • Failure: It was unsuccessful both times it was launched, failing to capture widespread interest.

    11. Trump Ice (Bottled Water)

    • What it was: A bottled water company.
    • Failure: While not a massive failure, Trump Ice never became a major player in the market and quietly disappeared.

    12. Trump Model Management (1999-2017)

    • What it was: A modeling agency.
    • Failure: The agency shut down following controversies, including allegations of exploiting young foreign models.

    13. Trump Tower Tampa (2005-2007)

    • What it was: A planned luxury condominium development.
    • Failure: The project collapsed due to financing issues and was never built.

    14. Trump's Atlantic City Casinos (Multiple Bankruptcies)

    • Trump filed for corporate bankruptcy several times to restructure debt related to his Atlantic City casinos. These bankruptcies were high-profile financial failures, although Trump personally did not face the same legal consequences as the companies did.


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