Russia-Ukraine War

"Research" I.E. verbatim regurgitation of the Kremlin spin. Spin that has evolved by the by. Many Russians seem to suffer from amnesia(& fear), so the Kremlin wrongly assumed people beyond their borders would also forget.

For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas

You forgot the 16,000 Russians killed line. In fact at least 6000 of those were Ukrainian(Russia herself claimed 10,000 plus Ukrainians killed). Now I've asked you this before, to deafening silence on your part; when did the vast majority of those deaths occur? Hint:2014-16. How many died in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021? Russia themselves say just over 600 of their men were killed in that period. So why didn't Putin officially invade at the height of the killings he's claiming are his reason for invading in 2022? I say officially as his "little green men" were, already in country. Something he denied for years and then admitted.

Most of all; how many dead, injured and displaced are there now since Putin's invasion? Ukraine is now the most mined nation on Earth. There is a zone of utter devastation so big it can be easily seen from orbit.

someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards.

Ah Boris Johnson, again. The same Russian speaking Boris who was so in bed with FSB connected oligarchs, he visited them in Italy when he was the British Foreign Secretary without his government entourage, who elevated one oligarch's son to the British peerage, who so concerned the British intelligence services they went public with their concerns. That Boris Johnson? Interesting choice of the Kremlin's spin…

But forget all that, one fact torpedoes this spin; the talks went on for weeks after Johnson had left. Oh and try and find these Kremlin claims from the time it was going on. It was many months before they spun that up and it took nigh on a year before Putin after cranking up his word processor and printer before he claimed he had the documents. You'd think they'd be shouting about at the time, no? No, at the time it was the famous "feint" that had them back off from Kiev.

Oh and those WMD Biolabs and weaponised birds and insects. They've gone quiet on them haven't they? Even though they're in control of a large chunk of Ukraine for two years they couldn't even invent the "evidence". Don't mention the sims, or any "waifs in their underwear"…

Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable. The Russians have legitimate security concerns.

If you didn't have your flag planted so firmly in one camp you would know that it was impossible for Ukraine to join NATO. Unlike your Russian friends NATO members have to be voted in and it has to be voluntary. And most of all no potential NATO member can be approved if they have an active conflict on their lands. Y'know, the Donbas war you claim was what kicked off this "SMO"? It wouldn't get past the first stage. It's written in black and white in the charter of NATO.

Oh and you do realise that Latvia already a NATO member for years is closer to Moscow than Ukraine? Never mind that now after Putin's fcukup his border with NATO has doubled. Nice one Vlad. 🤦‍♂️

Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P.

You spelled "hard right ultra-nationalist fascist" wrong. Goebbels was a "journalist" too and had written over a dozen books. Oh and for your own "research" look up both the actual law and timeline and non signing of said laws around the Russian language in Ukraine. Though I find it hilarious that Russia of all places bitches about squashing languages after their post war Eastern Bloc nonsense, especially in the Baltics.

But as sure as the sun rises at least a third of the above will be memory holed and the script changed by the Kremlin, if it suits, and the faithful will learn the new catechism ready to spread the UNBIASED good word.

The Wagner coup a great example and a good example of how so very different, even alien Russian political culture truly is. Prigozhin at first berated the military leaders and their screwups, but then berated "grandpa in his bunker" and then went on to say that the reasons for the invasion were bogus, effectively repeating what Kiev had been saying and that it was a screwup from the start. He then invades Russia, panics the Kremlin, then some deal is worked out, a stash of his joke shop disguises are rolled out and within a couple of weeks he's back in the Kremlin glad handing African diplomats at an official Kremlin junket. Perfectly normal(save for the Russian service people who were killed by Wagner on Russian soil). Then he gets offed. Cos Putin. Can you imagine any of that happening in any other nation that's even vaguely open, democratic and normal? If that was a Hollywood script it would be rejected as being internally daft.

But like I say that's been memory holed. As has the horrific ISIS slaughter of civilians in Moscow, among so many other things. But hey, keep on keeping on. Ukrainian spin can be "interesting" at times, but they do far less memory holing and are far less, well, weird. I await the next installment.

PS Jimmy Dore, Roger Waters? Ah jaysus…😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣