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Driving test cancelled due to the disc strip is faded from green to blue

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Rket4000


    I assume that when the legislation was enacted, all insurers provided printed discs and the green strip was a standard colour. From the comments above, it's clear that it becomes an issue now that so many people are required to print off their own disc with varying quality of printers and ink. So the legislation needs to be looked at again. I presume the thinking behind it was to ensure a simple way of showing the disc isn't a fraud and I would have thought a simple solution for driving tests would be to ask the candidate to bring the cert with them to prove the disc is valid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,452 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    It's also worth noting that the disc does not prove that the person driving is insured anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Exactly, law should be changed so only those issued by insurer are legal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Snipe45


    My daughter has been unable to complete her test today due to no green strip on insurance disc..after completing her EDT lessons NDT and another 4 before test. The RSA tester Colin had not been aware of this as he rang us afterwards and said he must watch out for this in future, as he had checked everything beforehand.

    We are absolutely raging as €85 is not easy to come by these days. I wouldn’t have minded if she had to have the experience of completing the test and had made mistakes, but for gods sake this day in age where everything is online and insurance companies don’t send out documents anymore to save the planet, this is nothing short of a ridiculous rule even with an insurance disc there is no guarantee the driver is actually insured as there is no name on it. My daughter even took out Insurance certificate showing where disc had been cut off. but tester said he couldn’t proceed with test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    This is the most ridiculous reason to cancel a test that I’ve ever heard.

    Sorry to all those who have probably waited an age for their test date and lost their money too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    imagine if we lived in a country that had actual sunshine.

    Discs aren't fit for propose if they can't handle the two days of sun a year we get



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,452 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I'm surprised this nonsense is still going on.

    The testers are only doing it because it's the letter of the law and they can.

    Someone further up the chain of command needs to do whatever is needed to put an end to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭ClonNGB


    My son had a job offer dependent on full driving license. His tester in Skibbereen refused to conduct the test as the green strip on the insurance desk had faded to light green, and was 'not green enough' for her liking. He didn't get the job and is still waiting for a new test appointment. We could show the insurance was valid etc. but she refused to look. He was insured with Aviva who email the discs for you to print and obviously they are more prone to colour fading in the sun. The details were all perfectly visibile just the shade of green. For someone not liking the shade of green someones life is on hold. What are we coming to in this country. I fear for our young people trying to make there way in life and meeting this 'jobs worth'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    I hnow it doesn't help but you can ask AVIVA to post the disc to you rather than printing it yourself.

    Although the tester is right by the law it's a petty reason for refusing to do the test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I’ve just renewed my insurance with Aviva. Printed out the disc at home - turned out a very pale green colour. Tried it in work and it’s a lime green. That will have to do. Luckily no one in the house is doing a driving test any time soon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Candlel


    Many home printers don't have colour. I guess you've got to go to a print shop in that case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    Local libraries have colour printers. There’s an email you send you docs to and collect them in the branch.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭Candlel


    That's very good to know. Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Are you meant to park the car in a cave out of the sunlight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,081 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    You could have a nicely coloured disk, but still have no insurance and there is a real question about the insurance associated with the insurance disk covering a learner doing a test.

    The testing booking system should be linked to new database and validate the car generally and there should be some inspection of the detail of the policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭M3CS


    What's the logic behind these testers refusing to allow people to do their tests because of this? Do they get a 30-minute paid break every time they can spot a slightly different shade of green? I'd love to know what's motivating them to do this to people that they know are feeling the stress and pressure of the occasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,360 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    The tester probably went back in and had a cup of tea and a good laugh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭bigroad


    So if you were to go over the faded green section with a good marker that would do and the jobsworth tester would never know.

    It just goes to show how backward the test is and what are the RSA doing, sfa thats what.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Have to say that this type of carry one makes me frustrated as a fellow public servant. The real question is where are the supervisors or managers of these testers. The test requirement should be for valid insurance for the person under examination, as the window piece with the green strip only indicated the vehicle is insured for someone possibly not the person under test.

    Those who have been refused a test should make a formal complaint, perhaps a flood of complaints to be answered might get this procedures revised.

    I currently drive myself with a black & white version, I will not be requiring any test though, and am confident any Garda that might look at it will not have any issues, as Gardai tend to use their powers and discretion wisely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 294 ✭✭Baseball72


    Utter nonsense. That stipulation needs to be changed by the RSA (but it won't be of course). I have a good home printer but the colours can vary depending on the quality of the refill cartridges.

    It is another box-ticking exercise by bureaucrats who have no concept of the real workplace and the pressures. I can understand a test being void if I turn up with a defective light bulb etc. That said, when a test is cancelled in such circumstances, a new test date within 7 days should be available. Learner drivers cannot put their lives on hold - the system has been broken for 50 years or more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    I see a post on page 1 of this thread on about a magnetic L plate and it brought back memories of attempting to do my first test.

    Horrible day p1ssing rain. Magnetic L plate stuck onto the back of my Aul fellas van at the petrol station right beside the test centre. Tip over to do the test. It gets to the walk around bit and sure a sh1t there's no longer an L plate on the back. I was sickened told the tester it's definitely on the ground in the petrol station forecourt, say to him I'll get it and be back in a couple of minutes tops I've tape in the van I'll tape it inside the back window this time.

    He says to me it's unlikely he'll be able to do the test, busy schedule etc. Anyways off I go and I'm back in no time at all less than 5 mins and as I drive in the gate isn't yer man heading off in his own yoke. I wait for him and he doesn't return for about 45 minutes at which point he swans in to the test centre car park suppin a coffee from the feckin petrol station I had just been to. I just shook me head and said for f*cK sake when he still maintained he'd no time to test me.

    I had the hoor again for the next test and we were done and dusted after about 15/20 mins passed no bother. Always hoped he at least felt a little bit guilty about the whole thing even though it was completely my fault for using the useless magnetic plates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Unfortunately you could meet a garda who is having a bad day & might take a different view. The legislation really needs to changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭honda boi


    Its actually gas that this is still happening FFS.

    I'm not sure how the testing system is as I did mine over 10 years ago, but I remember my brother went to do his maybe 2 years ago and him telling me you have to wait to be invited or some nonsense like that for a test.

    So you wait months for a test, stressed to the T about the test, get lots of lessons in , just to be told on the day by some higher then mighty guy, "hmmm that shade of green on that disc isn't good enough , now f**k off". For most people that means they won't be working for more months.

    Sure the disc doesn't prove anything about insurance. You can make your own and just stick it in the window.

    Now because of this there will be even more of a back log then there was before.

    Thank God I don't have to go through this stuff, but I'm dreading what it will be like when the kids are old enough to drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,248 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Exactly

    I think something like this warrants cornering the tester away from the place of work - whether it’s a shop etc. and just call them out for what they are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,486 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Refusing the test because of a lack of a green strip is nothing new.

    I dont know why people are so surprised.

    20+ years ago, tests were refused if you had the (officially printed) insurance disc folded into the holder, and the the green wasn't visible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭chrisd2019


    Indeed you could, but it might be worth seeing if it would be brought to court for non payment. Would a Superintendent deem such a matter more worthy of the courts time than a violent assault, robbery or shoplifting case?



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    my insurance disc, posted by Zurich, had no green strip at all. Lucky I don’t have a driving test due!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,487 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    The superintendent would never even see it. Non payment of a fine will auto generate a summons to court.

    Even if it didn't, superintendents aren't worried about the court's time, it's for the Courts Service to make courts run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭boardz


    Not the exact same issue but my daughter did her test in my car last year. My insurance was up on the 27th June and as Aviva had sent me the new insurance a week before this date I put the new disc in the windscreen. Her test was on the 26th. He copped the start date wasn't untill the next day and refused to do the test. I explained what happened and had the current insurance cert in the glove box but wasn't interested. No point in pushing it at the time = certain fail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Saul Goodman 91


    Why hasn't anyone got onto Joe Duffy about this issue yet?



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