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Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Any suggestion that Leon may have been kidnapping pets for purposes of preparing for his colonization of Mars.?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    There is a certain type of poster. You see them all the time in the Russia/Ukraine thread and also in Trump-related threads. I am not saying that the same people are posting in both but there are posters who use a similar tactic.

    They say things like "I'm not for either side". However all of their posts are critical of one side only. In the Russia/Ukraine thread those posters only critcise Ukraine and its Western allies. In the Trump threads the people using that tactic only criticise the Democrats.

    No. I am not insinuating these are Russian pots or anything like that. I actually work with 2 guys who are exactly like this. They claim to hate politics and politicians and I have heard them say a lot of things that sound like they came from some of the many conspiracy type accounts online. They both went down the Covid Disinformation hole during the pandemic.

    What I can't quite figure out is they won't own their opinions. Like they say that they are on the fence but then everything else they say shows that they most definitely are not. These guys aren't exactly shrining violets so I don't believe they are afraid of being ridiculed for their support of Trump and Putin.

    And whatever about in real life it makes absolutely no sense on an anonymous internet forum. No, you're not going to get more credibility if you pretend to be unbiased when you so clearly come down on one side. People aren't idiots. They can see that all of your posts are critical of one side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,395 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It's weird isn't it. It's like it has been, ah, what's the phrase - memory holed?

    Posters seemed to be oh so concerned about the word salad and then nothing … I guess racist drivel about pet sandwiches trumps word salad.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Following on from the debate and the exposed differences between Trump and his V/P running mate over abortion, has Trump [as top man] instructed Vance that he is not to make public statements or answer media questions on the issue without his OK to avoid conflict of policy statements between them so their campaign won't self-destruct over Vance's statements?

    Given Trump's wild allegations during the debate about full term born babies being "aborted" after birth, have his campaign and the GOP being asked for verification of his statement being correct?

    Have the AMA and other Doctors rep groups kicked up a public fuss about Trump and Vance's misinformation statements on the issue of abortions?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Were salads served with the pets? Can't have been Trump that took them…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,685 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    full term born babies being "aborted" after birth

    Well now, in fairness, he did say that, but then carefully explained, as to the thick and ignorant, that there can't be abortion after birth of course, that would not, strictly speaking, be abortion. Obviously someone had made him learn this sentence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Proper Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance

    AKA the 7 p's.

    Very good Oscar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Collins reports that Trump's team are giving him the yes-men treatment: telling him what he wants to hear while quietly admitting the truth - such as the fact that his debate performance was a disaster

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/cnns-kaitlan-collins-says-trump-advisers-praised-him-to-his-face-after-debate-but-told-her-they-were-stunned-by-failures/

    Actually according to Collins' sources, he did more debate prep for this debate than the Biden debate.

    Makes you wonder if he either just completely half-assed it with Biden or if «ghasp» he was lying about not doing debate-prep for this?! 😧



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    What is abundantly clear is that all the preparation in the world cannot account for Trumps fragile ego.

    Once Harris basically told everyone "His rallies are crap and boring" he was effectively done for the evening.

    He could not let any of her little digs go and despite having multiple opportunities to go after her on actual policy things , he had to make sure to defend his pathetic little ego first, meaning that he used up almost all of his allotted time spouting nonsense at each segment.

    Such a weak and flawed man - Utterly incapable of seeing past the defence of his own sad little insecurities.

    It's why he's such a terrible businessman and politician.

    Sometimes to close a deal , you've got to just smile and eat sh!t , because that's what's required.

    Not Trump , he'll blow it all up so he can walk away the "Big man" , at least in his fractured deluded mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Tariffs aren't paid by foreigners, they're paid by US consumers. Its a tax on Americans.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭yagan


    I don't mind admitting that I firmly believe anyone thinking Trump is in any way competent is delusional.

    His three big policy that continue to isolate the US are his moving of the US consulate from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, his withdrawal of the US from the TPP opened the door to the RCEP which is now the biggest trade bloc in the world, and his Huawei ban has shown that the US is doesn't understand how dependent many US companies like Apple and Tesla are to China.

    Biden wasn't any better when he carried over Trump lab conspiracy about Covid19, and the 100% tariff on BYD and other Chinese auto brands is just more protectionism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,395 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    They are an economic wall ... same deluson Trump tried to peddle last time about making Mexico pay for that wall.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Pity. She could have gotten him to say to millions of Americans that kids are going to school, only to have gender changing operations done and dusted and coming home that very evening the opposite sex.

    That would have absolutely killed his campaign.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Yeah, but it wouldn't. He said that immigrants are eating dogs, and that led to posters here saying that it's probably true.

    If he said that, you'd probably have nimrods saying, "it happened in their cousins friends sons class where a boy called John disappeared at lunchtime and reappeared after as a girl called Joan. There's video somewhere, but I can't find it right now."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The whole 'losers don't ask for rematches' brainworm has really burrowed into his head, lolol, he's so against anything suggesting he lost that debate that he's psyched himself out of a second bite at the apple.

    When a prizefighter loses a fight, the first words out of his mouth are, “I WANT A REMATCH.” Polls clearly show that I won the Debate against Comrade Kamala Harris, the Democrats’ Radical Left Candidate, on Tuesday night, and she immediately called for a Second Debate. She and Crooked Joe have destroyed our Country, with millions of criminals and mentally deranged people pouring into the USA, totally unchecked and unvetted, and with Inflation bankrupting our Middle Class. Everyone knows this, and all of the other problems caused by Kamala and Joe – It was discussed in great detail during the First Debate with Joe, and the Second Debate with Comrade Harris. She was a no-show at the Fox Debate, and refused to do NBC & CBS. KAMALA SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE DURING THE LAST ALMOST FOUR YEAR PERIOD. THERE WILL BE NO THIRD DEBATE!

    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-says-hes-done-debating-there-will-be-no-third-debate/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I saw on facebook a quote attributed to JD Vance about Taylor Swift following her endorsing Harris: quote. I don't think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans. End quote. I got to thinking the alleged statement might have been intended to be a propaganda-style reverse-comment at another rich person by some-one other than Vance and checked if Vance had spoken the words.

    It seems he did say something similar but his actual statement was apparently about the cost of shopping and the price of housing hurting most Americans : "We admire Taylor Swift's music, but I don’t think most Americans, whether they like her music, are fans of her or not, are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of most Americans," Vance said Wednesday on "The Story."  "When grocery prices go up 20%, it hurts most Americans, it doesn't hurt Taylor Swift. When housing prices become unaffordable, it doesn't affect Taylor Swift or any other billionaire," Vance continued. "It does affect middle-class Americans all over our country."

    A polite way of taking a swipe at her for going against his boss where it counts on publicity and influencing people. The influence of the entertainment world is feared by the Trump campaign.

    However, it seems some-one in the Trump and Vance campaign does understand and vocalize on the economic problems hitting Americans who are counting their change, even if Trump can't put it into words himself as his campaigns economic policy. Comment has been made about Harris not mentioning her campaigns economic policy at the debate, making it seem she does not have one. Harris has made a point in mentioning her upbringing as a child not being wealthy in her campaign, thus weaponizing the economy issue for Trump to use against her not just as V/P in the Biden Admin but as a campaign issue she does not have a handle on. She would be well advised to get whichever section of her campaign is covering that home front issue to pull their finger out and give her ammunition to use on it. Harris, as V/P, must have access to federal data on the issue of the economy and how the average American family is sorting out hos to pay the household bills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,395 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Then they are made to eat their pet.

    I heard it from a neighbour. So it must be true.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I wonder if he’ll express the same concern about an entertainment network (especially their millionaire employees) trying to sway people.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    Well he is sounding more and more like someone who took too many hits to the head



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He must be smelling defeat at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    I listened to this just now.

    Swan described Trump as being fine for the first 15 mins. Trump apparently is "fine" when rambling, lying and being angry.

    He then described the next forty minutes as "A missed opportunity", specifically *not* a disaster as posited by the presenter... And then fine for the end.

    The presenter the summarises by saying "Harris achieved her goal. Trump? Not so much."

    Astounding.

    He angrily lied through his teeth about his economic record, the amount of people coming into the country, eating pets, that he had nothing to do with Jan 6th, that it was Pelosi's fault, that Biden "hates" Harris, circled back to denying he lost the election, lied about Biden and Harris prosecuting him, lied about abortion.

    And that's their summation?

    FFS

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Not doing a third debate, when he was calling for it before, is certainly telling

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭valoren


    Vance effectively saying...I don't think Americans will be swayed by a billionaire celebrity who is out of touch with reality so vote for a billionaire celebrity who is out of touch with reality.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Many years ago the US took in thousands of Vietnamese ''boat people'' as they were called at the time. Their past time was rounding up dogs in their neighbourhoods for their ………..until the long arm of the law caught up with them. Strange but true. Apparently dogs are considered a delicacy in Vietnam. So there may be a certain truth to Trumps statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    After touring support from Billionaire "celebrity" Musk too...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I'd expect (foolishly perhaps) more

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    President Trump is simply too powerful for weak Kromade Kackling Kamalla. It’s all over bar the lib media’s death rattles. Brace yourselves for a return to values that are back to normal and away from the peak deviancy that goes with a Dem administration



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