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Kneecap

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  • #32
    Fuascailteoir
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122498417#Comment_122498417

    bono



  • #33
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122498417#Comment_122498417

    I've only ever watched one Kneecap video prior to seeing this film and I didn't even know it was them. I think they've done more for the Irish language than a century of corruption and nepotism by various governments. "Grift" is completely unwarranted. They make music and that's it. You like it or you don't.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #34
    johnny_ultimate
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    Of course they’re putting on a show and they have very much received mainstream approval in the Republic. But they’re fighting plenty of righteous causes - from the UK’s approach to Northern Irish arts funding to Palestinian rights - and are doing lots for the promotion of the Irish language, in a very different way to the other recent wave of Irish language titles. Their ‘provocations’ at least are grounded in genuine conviction, which is a lot more than I’d say for a lot of other ‘try hard’ musicians out there.

    The film is pretty formulaic and hardly some radical piece of art. But it’s an awful lot of fun IMO, with just the right amount of cheek and contemporary commentary to give it a bit of an edge. I wouldn’t go in expecting any more than that, but on its own terms it’s a damn good time.



  • #35
    xxyyzz
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    The plot is a bit all over the place and it shamelessly bears more than a passing nod to trainspotting and I'm totally not their target demographic but it's an absolute riot. I came out of the cinema elated and bought tickets to an upcoming gig.



  • #36
    Dick phelan
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    Was aware of one or two or their songs could take or leave them but just saw the film, have to say it was genuinely very funny on a few occasions had me properly laughing. For lads with no acting background they all did very well. There's something more to these lads then meets the eye.



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  • #37
    Bellbottoms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483345#Comment_122483345

    Sure, if you haven't seen it. How can you say it is a straight to TV film?

    This is very odd.



  • #38
    Bellbottoms
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122483497#Comment_122483497

    So The Rubberbandits.



  • #39
    dulpit
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    Saw this last night. I don't like rap music, I've heard only a tiny bit of their music and didn't know a whole lot more than that.

    Have to say, it was a superb bit of fun. And to be fair to the lads, they are all fine actors. Well worth watching in my opinion.



  • #40
    gmisk
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    Surprised Joe Duffy hasn't latched into them for a rant tbh...

    Planning on seeing this week looks fun



  • #41
    Meeoow
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    Great film. It should be shown on every school in the country. Best way of undoing all the damage our education system has done to our poor wee language.



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  • #42
    sporina
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    saw this today - as a movie its really well done - well written, directed and acting is spot on

    but why the overload of drugs and bd language? genuinely asking..

    to me, the Irish language act takes 4th place to the politics, drugs and cursing..



  • #43
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607114#Comment_122607114

    The Irish language is front and centre. The whole film is a love letter to it. Everything else is just a side show.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #44
    FrancieBrady
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122582962#Comment_122582962

    If around here is anything to go by school kids are going in their droves. Still haven't seen it, my children want to watch it with me, so waiting an opportunity, which is something in itself. Tá sceitimíní orm.



  • #45
    El Duda
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    Kneecap – 9/10

    An outstanding debut from director Rich Peppiatt. All the more impressive when you consider that he’s directing a bunch of non-actors playing themselves. It’s loud, full of attitude and has bagsful of energy.

    To combine rap music, foul language and rampant drug taking with a poignant story about lost identity is no mean feat. It has both purpose and meaning and I left the cinema feeling that I had learned a lot. It fires on all cylinders. One of my films of the year.

    It’s good to see Fassbender picking his projects well again.



  • #46
    sporina
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607466#Comment_122607466

    a love letter to it? awe now.. its more like a hate letter to the brits.. and I doubt their fans care much about the irish language



  • #47
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607873#Comment_122607873

    I've no idea how you took that from the film. I really don't. One of the band even explicitly says that "Brits out" means the apparatus of the British state like MI5 and the army, not Protestants or Unionists.

    The whole point is the Irish language. It's dominant throughout the film and the fact that a group of lads rapping about drug use and shagging have done more for it than a century of independence is damming.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #48
    Hoboo
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    Conjecture is practiced by fools.



  • #49
    sporina
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607892#Comment_122607892

    i'm talking about the movie - not interviews by the band members - how the movie came across to me - and thats how it came across - even the father didn't approve of their ways; pro drugs and dealing "you don't understand the irish language" - he even said that to him - you might wanna watch it again.. ie: the father didn't approve of how he was using the irish language



  • #50
    eightieschewbaccy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607916#Comment_122607916

    He explicitly says to his girlfriend it's in reference to the British state. On top of that they shrug off the mantra of their father which was speaking Irish acted as bullets shot at the British. So it's pretty much about stepping into the future.

    In relation to the drugs and drinking, it's relevant to their lives and it was absolutely great fun. The love floor the language was apparent throughout, if you look up DJ Provaí, he's been doing music in Irish people to Kneecap etc. This makes it accessible. It's a break from more traditional takes which is refreshing IMHO.



  • #51
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122607916#Comment_122607916

    So am I. I'd never heard of them before seeing the film and I don't watch interviews.

    It's fictionalised for entertainment purposes. I don't see the problem with that.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #52
    sporina
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    re: "brits out" and the scene with Georgia - got it.. thought poster was referring to an interview or something..

    I have no prob with the political stuff in the movie - struck me as satirical and was great to see the Palestinian flags..

    So yeah, i thought the movie was v well done - and indeed v funny - if only some of it were not so true..

    nothing funny about drug taking - I live in Cork and the city is a wash with drugs and people in such a state because of them and I'm sure it started with using as recreation..

    The same movie could have been made with less drugs and harsh language - but thats not "kneecap"…



  • #53
    harryharry25
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609563#Comment_122609563

    Large majority of people who take drugs recreationally have no problem with drugs.

    Some will get addicted and it's horrible to see

    It's no different to alcohol, large majority who do it have no problems.

    Some get addicted and it's horrible to see

    The drug taking is part of the film and their life, although from seeing interviews and being at a few gigs the 2 younger lads would want to not overdo it on the cocaine



  • #54
    sporina
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609581#Comment_122609581

    not gonna get into a debate about drink and drugs.. etc etc..

    but I will say this, it would be a diff story if the movie was fiction - but its not

    i won't be going to any kneecap gigs, thats for sure..

    with regards to movies and the irish language - An Cailin Cuin - now thats a masterpiece!!!



  • #55
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609596#Comment_122609596

    The film is fiction. It's only loosely based on the real thing. Why are you pretending that it's supposed to be some rigorous biopic?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #56
    harryharry25
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609618#Comment_122609618

    Exactly



  • #57
    sporina
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609618#Comment_122609618

    movie and band = both into drugs and overuse of foul language - i'd say the fact that its in irish is well over their fan's heads



  • #58
    FrancieBrady
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    Finally caught up with this. Funny and entertaining and very confident and competent.



  • #59
    El_Duderino 09
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122491550#Comment_122491550

    Oh, you've actually seen it. I'm not really interested in your thoughts. I want to hear more from the poster above who hasn't seen it, doesn't want to see it and still has righteous opinions about it...

    Saw it myself this week and thought it was class. Good story and well told.

    Thought it was a boss move by Kneecap when they split the money they were awarded for the discrimination case to loyalist and narionalist arts groups.



  • #60
    2smiggy
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    Very good film. A lot better than I was expecting. The three leads all very impressive.



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  • #61
    _Quilombero_
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    overrated in my opinion. Felt like an odd mix between young offenders and something more serious . Didnt think the story was particularly interesting or the characters.



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