Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

Oh my

Trump's not listening to his own campaign staff again

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-advisor-insists-multiple-times-on-cnn-second-debate-on-the-books-minutes-before-trump-casts-doubt-on-actually-going/

That will surely do wonders for him in the last 7 weeks of the campaign.

To be honest? I don’t think that’s cognitive decline - it’s desperation of a man facing a lot of legal challenges if he can’t escape into the presidential office for the next 4 years.

Democrats murder live babies is just in the same bucket as immigrants are eating our pets - it’s massively exaggerated imagery to keep his supporters in line - you can’t , I can’t , no-one can’t “unhear” these comments - ask yourself, from a psychological perspective, if you’re a “Trump supporter” , this mental imagery is powerful id imagine - it’s from the cult playbook - no question about it.

It’s actually quite “clever” in my view - dangerous yes, underhanded yes- manipulative yes- but I think psychologically he’s attempting to scare people off voting Harris via imagery -a theory yes, but I don’t think I’m way off the mark here, crazy and all it may sound

Why would RTE have egg on their face?

cheers I’ll take a look - my own view is she hit loads of notes she needed to hit on the night but I didn’t feel she had clear messages ready or else didn’t get a chance to deliver clear messages to this group of voters - she has time though and she did very well regardless last night - I think it was asking too much for her to hit all bases- there were just too many

So Kamila dropped to 33 percent from 35 and trump went up to 55 from 33 on "who would handle the economy better". Taking in to account that 50 percent consider the economy the main election issue this is a bit of a disaster for her. Same with migration. Considering these are the major issues she is still facing an uphill battle no matter what this echo chamber thinks. Kind of funny

Charming

Now?

It's baffling to how people believe this, how would Trump stop Hammas attacking Israel and then prevent Israel from holding back? Of course with Ukraine the war would only be shorter as he would let Putin have his way. I hope people like this don't get emails from Nigerian princes.

Hardly the filleting you predicted. Wasn't tusli meant to be trump's ace card? Funnily he didn't go near Harris' DA experience, I wonder why

Well the fact is none of this **** was going on when trump was in power no matter what way you spin it.

I've heard of Cat Cafés before, they must be doing well in Springfield?

I legit spat my drink all over my keyboard watching some of this stuff. Trump really was absolutely bonkers bad last night.

Looking back at the debate.

Is the economy better than it was 4 years ago? KH ignored this question and talked about her plan going forward. DT should have attacked her on this but spoke anout tariffs and immigration

Tariffs. Neither was impressive. DT talked about immigration again.

Abortion. DT talked about executing babies. Moderator Linsey fact checked him. KH didn't answer about terminating in 9th month. DT rambled about student loans and Biden on the beach.

Immigration. KH asked why immigration wasn't tackled until

6 months ago. She spoke about bill to increase border guards knocked back by Republicans. Got under DT's skin by saying people leave his rallies. He spoke about eating cats and dogs. Fact checked by moderator on this. He said he heard about it on TV. KH spoke about what his former staff had said about him. DT asked how he would deport 11 million immigrants. Fact checked about crime increasing. KH said it was ironic for DT to talk about reducing crime when he was a convicted felon.

Question about KH changing her mind on fracking, assault weapons, decriminalizing border crossing and changing her values. Both gave rambling answers.

Question about Jan 6. He rambled about immigration, Seattle. She spoke about Charlottsville as well the Capitol. He said Sean Hannity debunked Charlottsville..

Question about false claims DT won election. DT says he was speaking sarcastically when he said he lost by a whisker. Victor Orban says Russia and China were afraid of Trump

Question about Israel. KH spoke about 2 state solution and ceasefire. DT said KH hates Israel and Arabs.

Question about Ukraine. Does DT want Ukraine to win war? Imo opinion DT's biggest mistake by not saying yes. Said he would sort war in one day. KH said Putin would be sitting in Kiev if Trump was in charge. KH impressive talking about NATO and US commitment to Europe.

Afghanistan. KH said DT negotiated with Taliban and invited them to Camp David. DT said no one would have been killed if he was in charge.

Racism. KH spoke about Central Park 5. DT says Democrats were destroying country. DT says KH would defund police. KH said that she and Walz owned guns.

Obamacare. DT said he had the concept of a plan. Laughter in studio. KH talked about John McCain voting to save Obamacare. Both spoke about private insurance

Climate change. KH talked about clean energy. DT spoke about tariffs on China. Said Biden and son got millions from China, Ukraine and Moscow

Closing statements. KH spoke about not going back and charting new way forward. DT asked why she hadn't done things in last 3 1/2 years. We are a failing nation, we are going to end up a 3rd world country.

Overall looking back at debate. KH clearly won but not by as much as I initially thought