2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Whether you think he deserves it is irrelevant. If the team want to maximise their results this season they need to start issuing team orders. If they aren’t interested in maximising their results then why even bother competing in the first place. Nonsense phrases like “papaya rules” just makes them a laughing stock.

I think you're making very different points to the original poster. If Piastri handed Lando the win and Lando went on to win the WDC, he would have earned the title and deserved it. You're going off on a completely different point (one I disagree with but outside the scope of what I replied too and what I've said).

Lando, IMO, hasn’t done that. Ability wise there is very little between himself and Piastri

44 points in the difference. Same car.

Also, he hasn’t shown enough consistency to make his case that they should risk the team dynamic going all in on him.

What team dynamic? There is none. There is no team. They've made that clear. There's 8 races left, of course you pick the guy who has a credible chance of winning the WDC and not say "we've two equal drivers". They don't. One has the potential to win. The other doesn't.

Neither do with their current strategy which is stupid.

Dream team imo. Stroll catches a lot of flack but you couldn’t say he isn’t putting his money where his mouth is. I’d imagine Newey will be as much creative freedom as he wants. It will be interesting to see what Alonso does now. I think he will be gone after 2025

They are separate. There’s Aston Martin F1 and Aston Martin Lagonda that builds the road cars. Shares in AML are not exactly a hot commodity at the moment so I’m guessing Newey got a slice of the F1 team.

It’s almost like Lawrence Stroll read Newey’s book and did the opposite of what Frank Williams did.

Stroll is obviously sticking his oar in and choosing the driver. Otherwise Lance would be out if there. It's reasonable to assume he's interfering in ways that are best for him personally, but not best for the team. How far he's willing to go to interfere is the question.

If he's willing to interfere with car design, then he's a gobshyte.

It's possible but they'd need such a dominant car for that to happen.

Perez finished second in one of the last 3 years, when Red Bull was dominant. Perez is a decent average driver. Stroll is below average. He'd probably need a car as dominant as the mclaren 1998 or Mercedes mid-2010s. It's possible, but unlikely.

They'd need a car so dominant that most other drivers would win the championship handily, before Stroll could compete.

It will be interesting to see who stroll replaces Alonso with when he eventually calls it a day, will he go big for Norris or piastri for example?

Verstappen? He's got the Honda, he's got Newey, why not complete the set.

Constructors is a certainty surely.

It was interesting to hear Newey say yesterday that some of the critical design features on the redbull for the last 3 years are not yet understood by the other teams.

Honda and Alpine breach cost cap regs

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cn47e8l2897o

It's amazing how short people's memories can be. Perez proved himself time and again to be one of the most capable drivers on the grid, he's just in the unfortunate position right now to be driving a really difficult car while people massively overplay how good it is because there is a once in a generation talent in the other seat.

I hope that if Norris does well they keep pushing him to compete for title but, if it's apparent the drivers title is gone, they revert to the "papaya rules" and let them race.

It will be interesting to see if this has any affect on how Norris drives now..

Hopefully it isn’t too late. The papaya rules bs has already cost them points.

They may revert to a pre-update version Of the car