Andrew Tate

Did the BBC programme delve into how he came to be like that?

what is the connection between peterson and male amputees?

nope, no idea.

Tate handing the prosecution even more evidence against him 🤣🤦‍♂️

It's only going to get worse as well with the increasing prevalence of AI.

I think we can all guess the relationship in that tragic case…

Algorithms that promote hate and anger, people, not just kids, hardwired into them. It’s a recipe for disaster. Not just with boys.
Try to teach respect, consent, living with diversity and people like Musk and other vested interests can supercharge the counter argument on their platforms or pay ‘influencers’ to peddle their myopic world view.
Any attempt to regulate social media met with ‘you can stifle free speech!’ BS.

‘Control your algorithm!’
Zuckerburg ‘it’s really really hard to do that’

Maybe you shouldn’t be in charge then.

Sorry, this post turned into a right rant.
Check out the centre for humane tech podcast and The Social Dilemma for a more eloquent version of my rant

Was he? Was he encouraging men to abuse women?

Your post highlights the problem perfectly. Your examples of male role models are all people you know or people you knew. Nobody would care about Andrew Tate if most boys had access to similar role models. Instead, they're glued to social media which is actively radicalising them and nobody does a thing about it.

As an example, I was wrapping up at work and I opened an incognito video. I watched a Harry Enfield bit on YouTube and then went to the homepage where a top recommendation was Katie "final solution" Hopkins. One video on a blank slate and it's peddling white supremacy to me.

You can of course try and chat to boys and young men and probably should but once they start consuming this stuff, it can be incredibly hard to convince them that it's wrong. There's a reason children are forced to go to church. Telling an adult atheist about religion is very unlikely to result in conversion.

AT is often seen as a joke by young men but if one was to buy the cultural Zeitgeist of the last 10 years or more it was that men and boys are inherently toxic or at best their problems and issues were ignored, its totally rational that they go off and build their own world views just like back in the day we sniggered at the hippy religious teachers.

Why would you put Peterson as similar to AT? Peterson in the round would line up with me as a parent quite well , which you could sum up as be as useful to yourself and others as you possibly can.

He's attributed violence in men to women not settling down and getting married. He's basically said men are born leaders while women are chaos.

Not interested in pathetic whatabouteries.

Fair enough.

All I know about Robbins is that he's into self-help, writes books and does seminars. I know literally nothing else about him. It was an honest question as plenty of famous people have turned out to be absolutely horrible human beings.

As for your second paragraph, I don't disagree but when have you ever seen people rush to take responsibility? I had an older housemate once who went on a rant about how children not going to church is what's causing society's issues. Not once in nearly 2 years of living with him did he ever go to church and he spent all of his free time womanising, producing children he couldn't afford, drinking heavily and stinking the house out with weed.

People who say the next generation are terrible ignore the fact that the preceding generation is the one which raised them.

In answer to whether I've seen people rush to take responsibility. I do it, I don't know if others are doing it too. I just take an interest in the boys and young men I'm around. Chat with them and show them how I behave towards people close to me, and how I talk about them when they're not there.

That's it. I'm not a super hero, just actively trying to be a decent role model similar to the ones I had growing up.

Edit, ones autocorrected to obesity