How hard is it to fire someone

Thanks for proving my point for me!! All these isolated disputes and the general public at large unaffected by them.

If private sector disputes behaved like those from government employees, retail would refuse people food, oil and gas deliveries would be halted in the depth of winter, those manufacturing and delivering drugs would prevent people access to them. People would be unable to leave or depart the country. None of which you manged to capture in your quite impressive list.

It's almost like there's benefits in having distributed sources of supply so that one group of degenerates don't get to use their monopoly to specifically target the most vulnerable in society the way government employees have done and repeatedly threaten to do so. None of the drug shortages you refer to was a result of employees refusing to work.

Of course, you know the dangers of relying on state healthcare and the people who work in it. That's why you take the coward's way out and purchase private healthcare despite all your grandstanding on this site.

Yep, there were plenty of alternatives the time of the Aer Lingus strike. Again, you are proving my point for me. If private employees behaved the same way as public employees, all air travel would have been stopped completely. But it wasn't. Because those working in alternative airlines continued to do their jobs just like they were paid to do and tried their best to assist the traveling public.

For those relying on the public system and ill were indeed stuck there at the time of the nurses strikes. Not like they could pick up the phone and drive themselves to the nearest alternative hospital as they watched the nurses turn their back and walk off the wards. Are you saying those patients affected had a choice? Could you explain how they could have avoided being caught up as a result of that strike action? It wasn't a small number of deferred medical procedures.

You're right, when governments enter contracts to buy drugs for a set price, the employees continue to work each day to ensure the demand is met and at that price. You can be sure if government employees were responsible for manufacturing all drugs, the supply would be impacted by strike action at any time.

When governments enter contracts with their workers, it is unknown how much will be lost to strike action, fraud and generally waste (I refer again to your colleague in the other thread and the black hole that is the HSE greasing many grubby and greedy paws in the management layers)

It's clear to me which group of employees is morally superior.

Maybe you don't see that. Or actually maybe you do, because when it comes to YOUR health, you're not so quick to rely on the staff you jump to the defence of in the state Health System and instead rely on those who don't take industrial action in the private hospitals making your grandstanding on this site total hypocrisy.

You're a hypocrite who condones fraud from your colleagues. I'm not explaining the differences to you anymore. If you can't understand, that's an issue with you.

Why then do you trust your health with the morally superior private providers? Worried that you'll be caught out and denied healthcare in the public system, worried about the continuity of supply you could expect?

The fact that you have covered yourself by private insurance proves the very point I'm making 🤣

You don't have to explain any more, you have proven my point perfectly. Thank you!

Thanks for proving my point! Maybe I didn’t explain it very well, but you're the perfect example of the point I was trying to make.

Public health is not underfunded. That leaves staff as the explanation. The very point I was making.

I bet you you're not going to test out the simplistic claims and bet your health on public health staff though will you 😁

Funny how the 'concerns' of nurses due to working conditions went away when given a pay rise in 2019. Walking away from cancer patients and directly impacting the general public - those in pain and discomfort - in order to force government into spending more on pay is disgusting when nurses are not badly paid in the first place.

Nurses will spend the majority of their career earning significantly above the average salaries in Ireland. Including various allowances, their pay is even more than suggested by the salary scales.