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What whisk(e)y are we drinking? (Part 2)

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  • #3752
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,776 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Going to be a good weekend

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  • #3753
    JMcL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Picked up a bottle of Armorik single malt for the campfire tipple on our French camping trip last month. That it's all gone is an indication of how pleasantly surprised I was. If I was making a comparison it would be to something like Highland Park.



  • #3754
    [Deleted User]
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    has anyone tried any of the Craft Irish Whiskey Co bottles?



  • #3755
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122512475#Comment_122512475

    Had a look at whiskey live a couple years ago, but queue was too long. It's one that only suckers pay for I imagine.



  • #3756
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122514284#Comment_122514284

    sorry, slow response from me. Who makes the liquid? I assume it’s bought in and aged packaged and marketed



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  • #3757
    Citizen Six
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529828#Comment_122529828

    I’ve never looked into who makes it, as I’ve little interest in them. No need to assume, as they’ve never said anything about ever planning a distillery. And they’ve been in trouble for using distillery images for a distillery they have nothing to do with.



  • #3758
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Devil's Keep, and various other bottlings from them, are from Bushmills.



  • #3759
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,278 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Mad prices for their stuff

    Selling the idea of luxury 130 euro for a glass I seen



  • #3760
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Had a couple of small drams of Uigeadail last night from a bottle I got last month, I opened it at the time with a friend during a tasting session with other whiskies on the table so I didn't clearly remember.

    It's such an easy drinker with decently complex flavours.



  • #3761
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122529828#Comment_122529828

    This is an older article, interviewing Jay Bradley of the Craft Irish Whiskey Co.

    Jay Bradley: The Craft Irish Whiskey Co. - Luxuriate Life Magazine

    As a company, they're interesting, in terms of looking at how you take a distillate from a given distillery, which is no better or worse than distillate that was secured by others … And then create a product and a business model which is explicitly aimed at the luxury hospitality market.

    We're talking luxury hospitality for oligarchs, City of London bankers… People with the income such that they can make a discretionary purchase of a 7.5k bottle of Irish whiskey of unknown provenance and not worry too much about it.

    Stocking it in Michelin starred restaurants, partnering with the likes of Fabergé, limiting availability and chasing high auction prices, award wins etc. These guys are spending a lot of money on making all this happen, probably more than they do on their distillate by a good margin.

    I return to the fact that the distillate they got was probably not that different to what has been procured by others. It's single malt, maybe not even that old in some cases, as Bradley is a bit coy about age statements. He's expressly saying - in 2018 anyway - that the reason their final product is so good is because of the elaborate process they undertake aging the distillate after they get it. I personally don't find that credible. I'm sure it's great whiskey, but it's probably not better than comparable high end Irish whiskey from other vendors. But these guys have giant, giant balls, and have made the decision to pitch for the luxury goods market, so they have to just take themselves and put themselves in their own category, whether it makes much objective sense or not.



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  • #3762
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Think I read one of the things they do to get a "better maturation" was to build a warehouse in the north, where it is "muggier". The same place Bushmills have their warehouses…



  • #3763
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122558636#Comment_122558636

    fools and their money I guess. Thanks for taking time to reply



  • #3764
    FlicFlak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭FlicFlak


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122559073#Comment_122559073

    I also read an article somewhere that they do "slow dilution", where they water down the whiskey slowly over time (from cask strength to bottling strength). They said this doesnt "shock" the whiskey and gives it a better flavour overall.



  • #3765
    Electric Nitwit
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    Nice little home tasting tonight - Cask Strength Dark and Midnight Silkies

    Both very nice, but the Dark wins for me. Lovely Christmas pudding notes with just a hint of smoke, you'd barely notice the strength. The Midnight has a more treacly flavour which is very nice, but a slightly oily mouthfeel which I don't love and you can taste the alcohol more, few more fumes. But both very good



  • #3766
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Jameson, a present that came in a cardboard box with 2 free highball glasses.

    Was almost snobbish when I saw the glasses but I've never held a better designed glass.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #3767
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122564058#Comment_122564058

    Dark definitely my favourite too, but Midnight is very good as well.



  • #3768
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122566751#Comment_122566751

    Same for me.

    (not cask strength)



  • #3769
    Electric Nitwit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,525 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569578#Comment_122569578

    I don't really understand how, but the cask strength seems to have a few different flavour notes in it compared to the regular, it's not just the same-but-stronger. I really prefer it, though the regular is a fine drop too



  • #3770
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Last night ...

    Dunvilles PX - an excellent whiskey, I'd consider a bottle as a Christmas drinking option. Lovely body and treacly, sweet finish.

    Ferncullen 15 single grain madeira finish - fresh, light, grape notes. Not a good choice to follow the PX finish, but an interesting whisky.

    Same distiller I believe.



  • #3771
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,278 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Anyone have suggestions for a good single grain? Cask strength if possible but either way looking for a quality single grain



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  • #3772
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122576633#Comment_122576633

    I've had single grain from Ferncullen, Method and Madness and JJ Corry - The Hanson.

    Of the three, the Ferncullen 15 was the most recent, and was superior (Reflected in the price).

    I was going to say Greenore 8 year old will always be the daddy of Irish single grain whiskey for me, but it appears it's rebranded as Kilbeggan 8 year old now (?).

    I cannot think of a single cask Irish strength single grain whiskey. From the UK an option would be something bottled by Douglas Laing, they've done it in the past now that I look. I think I can the odd sample from Master of Malt in the past. They were part of the Old Particular range I think.



  • #3773
    FlicFlak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭FlicFlak


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122577251#Comment_122577251

    The only one that comes to mind is Hyde cask strength single grain Irish whiskey, 8 year old.

    I did try a West Cork cask single grain cask strength 6 year old at whiskey live, but it was an under the table job. Was absolutely delicious though. The lad explained it was supposed to be a general release, to go between the 5 year old pot still and the 7 year old single malt releases, but apparently it didnt test well or something, focus groups were negative to single grain whiskey! It was head and shoulders above the other two releases, in my opinion!



  • #3774
    Wossack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭Wossack


    I saw in the bargin alert thread, O'Briens have a sale on

    https://www.obrienswine.ie/collections/irish-whiskey-sale

    Anything of note in there? My stocks are down, so getting another bottle of 3 Swallow at least, but considering a second - maybe the Powers Rye



  • #3775
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,748 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Power's Rye is a great drop at that price .



  • #3776
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122580546#Comment_122580546

    I think the Rye is a great suggestion.

    Other observations on what's there…

    I've seen Crested go down very well at whiskey tastings, particular when people aren't familiar with Crested 10 and don't have that association around what it is. I have tried it and it's really a very good whisky but I think I'll never be able to look past what it was, and what it used to cost, in the 90s. But I've seen foreigners trying it in a whisky flight from Jameson pick it above things like the pot still.

    Writers' Tears is a stalwart, people forget how good it is.

    At the 45 euro mark the Dingle and Kilbeggan pot still could be of potential interest.



  • #3777
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,278 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Writers tears copper pot and double oak

    Question is the whiskey good!

    the breakdown of distillate

    Which would you recommend



  • #3778
    Black Sheep
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    No grain in the copper pot, just pot still and malt whisky.

    Never had the double oak but in general I like cognac finishes and wouldn't mind trying it.



  • #3779
    2011abc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Teeling Single Malt at €46 in OBriens right now turns my whiskey clock back 5-10 years price wise .In the modern rip off 2024 world that’s a very VERY good thing .Its definitely a subtle , grown up dram but goes down very very easy .



  • #3780
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,278 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Anyone tried the great oaks single cask in Dunnes stores?



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  • #3781
    waterboy15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭waterboy15


    At a fairly recent whiskey tasting it went down like a lead balloon, there was a bitterness in the finish which all 5 of us found.



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