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Passing loop at Oranmore train station

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  • #32
    Mrs OBumble
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122582892#Comment_122582892

    Currently?

    AFAIK a good few use Oranmore Station for the purpose of getting a train to Dublin. 'Tis a far better use of it IMHO.

    Multi mode journeys are tolerable if you only have to wait and load on one one leg, eg at the station, having walked, cycled or driven there. But when you add wait+load times, the are quickly not lifestyle-sustainable.



  • #33
    what_traffic
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122583076#Comment_122583076

    Currently = Sarcasm.

    The idea that ONLY people use Oranmore train station to get into Ceannt Station is false/untrue.

    The problem with the proposal currently on the table is that people will have to add a 2/3 min walk from the Coast Road to this wait time that you point out re multimode journeys; and if they are going to Dublin they may have luggage with them to transport.

    Multi mode journeys on the bus & train can work if the services runs to the timetable (why we need those bus gates in the City to become operational ASAP)

    Once NTA get clever they may start to look at the bus's been in sync with the train timetable; however more likely in the future the bus services to and from Oranmore will increase in frequency so one can make the required multimode journey with the train hence the importance of getting the bus stop placement right; as the original planners had factored in when Station was built back in 2012 with the bus layby near the platform.



  • #34
    GerardKeating
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122553223#Comment_122553223

    Planning finally submitted. according to a TD, but nothing on Galway.IE yet.



  • #35
    Geuze
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    Over five years from initially talking about it, to submitting a planning application.

    God Help Us.

    It's 1km of track, and a 174m platform made of concrete.

    Five years, and that's before going to tender, appointing a contractor, and actually building it.



  • #36
    Geuze
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    https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/news/planning-permission-sought-oranmore

    "The new platform, to the north of the current platform, will be accessed via a new underpass under the railway which will also provide a dedicated cycle route to the lands to the north. A stairs, lift and access ramp will ensure that both platforms are accessible to all associated infrastructure such as passenger shelters, passenger help points, customer information signs, lighting, CCTV and seating will also be provided."

    "It is planned to undertake advanced enabling works in late 2024 which will consist of the relocation of signalling, telecommunications and electrical infrastructure. Construction of the main works will commence in Autumn 2025 subject to planning and funding approval."

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    Main construction to start 6.5 years after this thread started.



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  • #37
    what_traffic
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    No mention of the Bus shelter been installed? Hopefully a separate pedestrian and bike path from the Coast Road is included in this proposal. The current cycle lanes in and out of the station are used as car parking.



  • #38
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122577270#Comment_122577270

    The ignorance and arrogance of this would be shocking if it wasn't exactly what I expect in this country.



  • #39
    Mrs OBumble
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122655972#Comment_122655972

    If someone drives to the station, and there is no parking available, then what should they do?

    Do the same options apply to someone who cycles to the station, but cannot find a bicycle park?



  • #40
    what_traffic
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    Good news. Plenty of space to add more bike stands. Yes



  • #41
    breezy1985
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122656010#Comment_122656010

    If there was no parking and the car just decided to block the road I'm sure you would be just as forgiving.

    If there was no bike parking I wouldn't lock my bike across the front gate blocking the way like someone with the typical me me me c*nt attitude.



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  • #42
    GerardKeating
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122656010#Comment_122656010

    Get there earlier perhaps. A full cark park is no excuse for illegal parking.



  • #43
    what_traffic
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    Its why we need to make getting to and from the train Station by bus and bike super easy and convenient from Oranmore and the Doughiska area. It still amazes me how people struggle with this idea.



  • #44
    Mrs OBumble
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122656191#Comment_122656191

    That's not particularly actionable advice for today, though.



  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122585124#Comment_122585124

    not in favour, leave the bus stop at the main road. Adding minutes for each bus to spin in and around the train station when 99% of travellers won’t get off the bus at the train station is just daft.

    I know you have been crying for this for years and years, maybe your emotion is clouding the reality of the situation.



  • #46
    what_traffic
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122658462#Comment_122658462

    Using that logic then - it wont add minutes then, just the 1 min of going in and out(30 second in and 30 second out) and dropping and picking up that potential 1/100 passenger off will add another 20 seconds. It is standard practice in a European context and will eventually happen once the line is Double Tracked into the City. Get ahead of it now, create the culture in Oranmore and Doughiska of accessing the Station via BUS. The Car Park is NOT going to be expanded.



  • #47
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660285#Comment_122660285

    maybe they could arrange for the bus to drive on the tracks alongside the train so that the 1 transit passenger per bus journey doesn’t have to walk more than 6 steps.


    It’s gas you are saying train users shouldn’t drive to the station and should get the bus and that the walk in from the road is off putting. Let us know how that works out the other end of the bus journey, will the bus collect from everyone’s house or is it okay for them to do some walking on that end of their journey



  • #48
    what_traffic
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122661004#Comment_122661004

    Not as gas as you are with your TrainBUS 😂



  • #49
    Geuze
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    With the same amount of rolling stock, will this passing loop allow more frequency of trains?

    Especially in the morning?



  • #50
    GerardKeating
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122681762#Comment_122681762

    But they are in the process of getting new rolling stock.



  • #51
    Geuze
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    No new diesel trains have been ordered.



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  • #52
    GerardKeating
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682143#Comment_122682143

    Yes, but they are ordering a lot of DART for Maynooth and the Northern Line, which will feed up a lot of diesel units.



  • #53
    Geuze
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    Yes, but I am asking about before that happens.

    With the current 2024 amount of rolling stock, and before any stock is sent from the GDA when the Alstom BEMU arrive, will the passing loop at Oranmore allow higher frequencies?

    i.e. will the loop itself allow from frequency to be squeezed out of the existing stock?



  • #54
    scrabtom
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    The new electric trains will take over from diesel commuter trains on the two lines going west out of Dublin.

    They could also potentially use the battery trains they are getting between Athenry and Galway if they installed a charger somewhere.



  • #55
    GerardKeating
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122682881#Comment_122682881

    Current rolling stock is not totally relevant, since the loop will take at least two years to build.



  • #56
    Geuze
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    5.5 years to the planning application.

    Two years to build 1km……………….1km and a platform……………………two years………………….?????

    Dijon built 20km of tramway in three years.



  • #57
    Paddico
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    Ah in fairness its only a one man job.

    The builder is old school so only turns up on his bicycle with a bag of tools and a ladder strapped to the site



  • #58
    Mrs OBumble
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122721728#Comment_122721728

    That's not old school, it's new school environmentalist.



  • #59
    Wompa1
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    With the increase in commuter trains between Athenry, Oranmore and Galway City, doesn't it seem a bit daft that they are sticking to the plan of a passing loop? Does this not mean, frequently delayed services when they have to stop and move aside to allow a service to/from Dublin, to/from Limerick etc. to pass. Seems like new rail would be better.



  • #60
    Geuze
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122724042#Comment_122724042

    "New rail"?

    Do you mean double-tracking the entire section from Ceannt station to Athenry?

    Or do you mean something else?

    The passing loop will allow more trains use the section from GY-Athenry.



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  • #61
    kabakuyu
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122699597#Comment_122699597

    Dijon always cut the mustard.



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