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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    Ye gods, I've seen more comedy in a orphanage mass shooting news coverage.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    That last statement is a load of nonsense to be fair. You couldn't possibly have enough information to make that assumption. Nobody could.

    I find Irish comedy very one dimensional/one paced compared to the Brits.

    I think we have a good sense of humour without being funny ourselves, generally. It doesn't translate at all to other cultures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I find comments by liberal non Brexiteer British people on things far far wittier than what Irish people come up with. Irish commenters consider themselves a hoot coming up with lines like "Something something gubbermint/the Dail" or calling Michael Martin "mehole".

    Irish people in a pub would laugh and make fun of someone coming in wearing anything other than athleisure, jeans, or GAA gear combo. Hyuk hyuk look at this lad!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I'm fed up with all these TD's (we're seeing them today) who get indignant about catholic church abuse.

    Fact is they are in a position to fix things and yet you never see them proposing legislation to fix thing i.e religious tax, asset seizure, tax on religious property.

    Norma Foley for example coming out today and suggesting the religious orders should do the right thing and pay compensation or Mick Barry suggesting all relgious orders should be removed from schools.They could actually do something to make sure this hapens and they've done nothing despite being in the Dáil for donkeys years.

    They are in a position to do something but they'd rather grandstand than doing anything constructive, it's pathetic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I think the abuse is indicative of what Irish society was like and there was a sort of symbiotic relationship between society and the church, and wider society's blame is getting lumped in with the church.

    It seems like there was a class system in operation, certain professions were seen as untouchable: politician, guards, teachers etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    A lot of people wouldn't reward/recognise them for it and it could well cost them their job.

    It should be a, long overdue, watershed moment (amongst others) to remove the religious element from our education system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Which shows how sleazy politicians are and why most are worthy of nothing but contempt.

    You don't do it because you get rewarded for it, you do it because it's the right thing to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I agree with that.

    Fact is the reason the church had so much power and abused it is because people allowed them to have that power.They weren't armed so they weren't difficult to stand up to if people wanted (there are examples of people standing up to the church and them being fairly powerless to do anything).

    People love blaming the church and the church only because they don't want to face up to the fact that their parents grandparents and great-grandparents were in a lot of ways every bit as cruel as the church were.

    I accept that the church played a role in brainwashing people but even taking that into consideration there was some outright cruelty that people put up with in their own lives just because the church said it was a good thing that clearly was inhumane.All the women that were sent into mother and baby homes could easily have been helped out by their own parents/the father of the child but they just let it happen,that's a form of cruelty that is indefensible in my opinion and perpetuated by the families of those women not caring enough (for whatever reason) , its inhumane to allow your daughter to be treated like that yet it happened constantly.

    A grand-aunt of mine was forced to give up her baby by my great grandmother when my great grandmother could easily have allowed her to keep it and if she wanted to avoid gossip just pretend it was her own child, but she forced her to give up the baby.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I can accept that people were afraid to go against the all powerful church, but it can't be blamed for everything. Apart from the abuse and the single mother issue, the thing that sticks in my head is the attitude to left handed people. Obviously I'm not belittling the other things, but how could something as mundane as being left handed warranted some of the attitudes back in the day. I remember seeing an interview with someone who was abused in some kind of juvenile center, the reason he was sent there was because he was left handed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    My dad was ciotóg. B. 1927, they use to try and beat his left handedness out of him with 'the strap' or they would tie his left arm behind his back to encourage him to use his right . . no . . of course it didn't work.

    God love the poor little souls who may have suffered with dyslexia back then, what they must've suffered at the hands of those narrow-minded, violent lunatics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Stony silence from normally noisy rural independents, am I right?

    Can't be pissing off the pensioner vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Ah, shur everyone was happy back then. They didn't know any better.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,323 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Enoch Burke: the thing that I find disturbing about it is that whether he wants to or not he has to be prepared to sacrifice himself for this because that’s what his family does. I’m sure his parents had a word at some point and said, “Enoch, you have to be prepared to go all the way here, there are no half measures, even if that means going to prison you have to stand up for your beliefs.” He probably believes this himself also, but can’t go against his family either. And I’m sure he didn’t have a pleasant time in prison, I mean look at him. They’re like the Irish Westboro Baptist Church.

    Israel and Palestine: Israel has a right to defend itself? Palestine has the right to defend itself.
    There needs to be a two state solution because that’s the only way Palestine can control their own borders instead of having the Israeli Army do it for them. Controlling your own borders is the first step towards controlling your destiny. There will never be a moderate peace plan because on both sides the narrative is controlled by hardliners who have long ago settled into extremely entrenched intractable positions. The only thing that’s gonna end the Israel Palestine conflict is if an international army invades and takes over security and defence. The Israeli army have shown over many decades that they are incapable of not committing atrocities against Palestinians. But I wouldn’t be too hopeful because no western army would agree to invade Israel and no nonwestern country would care enough to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,779 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    as a fan I believe the on field stuff is most important, 😉

    Community and culture don’t win matches or trophies…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,962 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I don't know if those who do not conform to the norm seek attention or what?

    But I think that those who do not know how to grow old gracefully, deserve no pity. They probably deserve stick IMO.

    There was a woman on a packed bus, loudly calling everyone a "sweetheart" (only after nine pm) she had one fake eyelash going one way, one fake eyelash going another, clothes on that were way too tight for her, showing folds of flesh.

    Bright coloured clothes and face that looked worn / worn out. Lined with wrinkles. I suddenly realised I knew her. An old school friend's older sister who must be pushing very near 50 at least.

    Now there is no badness in this woman (always was quirky/eccentric), but I cannot help but think if someone told her to cop herself on. She might have grown old gracefully. It was funny years ago, but there is a point where it looks pathetic. It is not her I blame but the people around her who should have had a quiet word at least.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    People who hit you with a random spiel in Irish and then act surprised you have no idea what they are saying are complete arseholes. Imagine living such an insignificant shlt life that you have to find some meaning through your ability to speak Irish.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    sounds 'neurodivergent', or a bit odd, …

    I cannot help but think if someone told her to cop herself on. She might have grown old gracefully.

    possibly, probably. Reminds me of an episode of Law and Order



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I don't think there is any biological reason for having preferred limbs. It's mere habit. I know a lot of folks who changed to writing with their right hand after picking up the habit of writing with their left initially. It has to be fixed early mind. People writing with their left hand look like gimps because we write left to right on a page.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How can I be habit when there's no tine to form the habit? You think.they start flexing their arms in the womb?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,646 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Do you think they come out of the womb and are predetermined to writing with one hand or another?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Well, it's DNA-based and babies and toddlers usually show a dominenace for one hand when they start to reach and grab for things, so…

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    And the winner of the silliest post of 2024 is..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    A recent study on the issue. Of course some people can learn to use the non-dominant limb, Mark Knopfler form Dire Straits is a citeog/product of the divil but plays the guitar like a right handed person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    Same here - banned from playing Our Lady in the Nativity we were - three of us told we were "wrong" - and yes, the tying the hands behind the back. Didn't help, I broke my left wrist once and tried to write with my right, imagine a stick insect on downers running in ink and then on to paper….

    My opinion at the moment - Darragh Maloney should be nowhere near a sports event. 45.34 on the clock v England today "I'd say they've decided to go home" - they're finishing a pint and having a pee you fool!!!!!



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  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've never found Nirvana that great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,228 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Ever associate a place with a certain event/activity ?

    Whenever i hear Gibraltar i always associate it with the IRA shootings

    Twickenham with Rugby

    Kilkenny with Hurling

    Isle Of Mann with motorbike racing

    Ally Pally with Darts

    New Zealand with Rugby

    Etc



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  • Posts: 4,214 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When political commentators refer to "The West", I always assume it's Connemara.



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