General Irish politics discussion thread

Indeed surprising only racists turned out to a meeting of racists. Also I find it hard to believe they had even that many people turnout, where's the pictures or evidence to show they had that many ehh, and even if they did how do we know they are all locals and not shipped in from around the country like they do for all their other nonsense? If there was a similar vote held by a pro immigration group these lads would be stamping their feet for proof of the turnout.

Also, isn't the issue here that a private company did the work, whereas if a public building company was there it would just be part of their job to build such things, rather than having to go through tender/etc?

It is an odd take to blame an opposition party for work done at Leinster House and not the government.

unfortunately good or bad anecdotes are not relevant,theres plenty of bad experiences to go with good.

The issue is the current model is financially and physically unsustainable ,we have no control on the numbers coming in,no process to speedily remove refused applications and practically no where to put the applicants except in camps with no facilities that after awhile due to boredom will become troublesome.

Family applicants are not going into camps so if they are being housed in private residences the costs must be astronomical.

We currently are in boom time tax wise so no financial issue at the moment but booms always end and we will have a huge cohort of dependants who came here seeking asylum,all from safe countries.

I get that there is a global movement of people for a myriad of reasons and we have to do our bit but if we are out of line with rest of Europe on this and are deemed a soft touch we will be inundated with economic tourists.

And to those that might scoff at this take a look at how many more Ukrainians came here versus much nearer countries,pro rata 6 times more than the UK,10 times more than France,

One bike

Jesus mary and joseph 🤣🤣🤣

To be fair the Dáil is still on recess. But it still looks woeful.

The 'signing off' part is the main problem. There are supposed to be checks and balances in place to stop this extravagant spending - you would never get away with spending €350k on something like this in the private sector and even in the public sector, there should have been numerous red flags and alarms going off when it was spotted how huge the final bill would be for something so trivial. People were definitely asleep at the wheel here.

From what I understand, procurement is meant to go through rigorous checks and balances, especially for ancillary stuff like fixtures and fittings, equipment, IT etc. There are supposed to be discussions at senior management level as to whether something represents good value for money and procurement is not meant to be finalised and paid for until someone even further up the management chain has reviewed the decision and signed off on it.

The problem would definitely be at civil service level. Either someone senior signed off on an outlandish payment or correct procedures were not followed further down the chain. There should have been alarm bells ringing when it was spotted that €350k was being spent on a mere bike shed.

As you often point out yourself to others ' if' 'is carrying a lot of weight there

What doesn't happen in the private sector is repeat examples because they wouldn't survive.
This isn't the OPW's first rodeo as it turns out nor this government's.

That's part of the reason huge numbers of companies don't survive

Exactly. The company and the job of the person supposed to be doing it, won't survive.

Why should those in the CS and government who fail in their remits survive?
That is the point.
The reason is we have gotten used to it, we shrug and move on.