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Russia-Ukraine War

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Big blow for Ukraine today. From telegram.

    "The Russians ended up at a military school in Poltava that trains radar and electronic warfare specialists.

    179th training center of the signal troops (military unit A3990) in Poltava, 44 Zinkivska Street.

    As usual, it was the officers' mistake, who were arranging the formation and ignoring the siren.

    People are already writing about this: MP Bezugla, Ukrainian military and local residents.

    As they say, this is negligence on the part of senior staff officials, which means there will be demonstrative purges.

    It is important for Zelensky to shift the negative focus of society to small-time flunkies.

    According to our data, this negligence cost: about a hundred dead and more than a hundred wounded.

    The government will now declare mourning and try to extinguish the negativity of society, but it is worth understanding that only stopping the war will prevent such and other large-scale tragedies."

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Also from Denys Davydov on telegram:

    4 Ukrainian brigades may be surrounded south of Pokrovsk, - Forbes

    Currently, Russian troops are bypassing Ukrainian positions between the village of Memryk and the Vovcha River, forming a salient that could become a trap for hundreds of our soldiers.

    Analysts believe that it is advisable to withdraw from the area before the Russians block the supply and retreat routes. This will save hundreds of our soldiers, although it will cost the loss of 70 square meters of territory. km"

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Poor people.

    Screenshot_20240903_132448_Samsung Internet.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Any information on the devastating losses Russia is taking from their offensive? We know they don't actually have unlimited manpower, nothing like it. Wondering if you have an inside track, like.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    If anyone wonder what they would be doing if they lived in 1930s and Hitler was doing his thing, well we doing it now, next to nothing



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Explosives from the 60s kill and main people just like modern ones do.

    If Russia were rolling up to Dnipro it doesn't matter if they were doing it in T55s.

    The decline is obviously real, but the threat is still enormous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Why are you getting defensive over this? Ukraine were dealt a blow today from that strike and from reports it could have been avoided. I'm one of the biggest Ukraine supporters in here.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    One could says it matters to the Russians being exterminated while using this old equipment with cheap modern drones



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,080 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Probably, though I don't so much care about that. The state of the Russian military is farcical on one hand, but given their inherent advantages the "decline" is nothing to be crowing about when they remain a lethal, and advancing, force. More Russians will almost certainly die than would if they weren't riddled with incompetence and corruption, but that still doesn't do Ukraine much good.

    Russia will happily push ahead with sticks and stones it seems.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Threat is still real, but it exposes the belief on here by some that Russia has unlimited weapons despite dipping into 60's stockpiles.

    They are getting to the bottom of the barrel in some items like tanks and towed artillery. All still very deadly, but there has to come to a point when they are pulling the parade T34 and there's literally nothing left (bar the few modern tanks rolling off the production line, which cannot keep up with the loss rate)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I read tho they might have time to withdraw and make their lines shorter to resupply. Seems Russia needs time there to bring up their own supplies and logistics so this will give Ukraine some valuable time to withdraw them forces out or give them a bit longer to better their defences around there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Russia seems to be sending men forward with the life expectancy of a day. I wouldn't say the logistics for those meat waves is that much.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I am getting emotional just looking at that photo of the kid. Too young to have any understanding of the situation, a situation no child should have to endure. Those russian scum are unworthy of existence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,552 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    No but they will need them all the same. Might buy Ukraine a bit of time not much but a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    The world should count itself lucky that Russia is corrupt as **** for if it wasn't, or even if they didn't loot the military, they would certainly be #2 in the world military list and Ukraine would have been screwed. Let's hope the corruption remains



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    That's the thing about it though thankfully. It's a feature of the system. Not a bug.

    It all comes down to free media. Imagine the absolute scandal in the media if an American military operation ended the way Russian ones do 4 times a week. Where a convoy of armored vehicles stumbles into a minefield and then proceeds to get deleted by artillery and FPV drones. A dozen APC's destroyed a hundred American casualties.

    Or that there was widespread theft of parts and skimping on material.

    Or heaven forbid that LLoyd Austin organised a mutiny run on Washington, shot down a few planes, backed down, was posted in Canada and subsequently assassinated 2 months later.

    Or any of the other ridiculousness going on in the Russian military

    It'd be a national embarrassment. High ranking officials would be losing their jobs or more likely their freedom. Biden would have to answer for it and probably step down.

    These scenarios don't really exist in the US or normal democracies with functioning militaries. Because of free media. But of course Putin can't have free media or really the actual truth become norms in Russias public space. Because if it did he'd be hung from a lamppost. Remove the corruption and the dictatorship dissolves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Resignation letters have been submitted to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine from several key officials: Oleksandr Kamyshin, the Minister of Strategic Industries; Denys Maliuska, the Minister of Justice; Ruslan Strilets, the Minister of Environmental Protection and Natural Resources; and Vitalii Koval, the Head of the State Property Fund. These resignations will be reviewed at an upcoming plenary session of the Verkhovna Rada.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,791 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Biden needs to let Ukraine take the gloves off. It's absolutely scandalous.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Exactly. He's a very weak leader.

    In a week where Russia has launched brutal attacks on Ukrainian cities the Mongolian president is parading Putin around even though he should be arresting him according to the ICC laws they signed up for. Bad look for Mongolia.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy527yex0no

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Doubt Mongolia will be too bothered about looking bad to the west they are dependent on Russia like a few other countries. It's way beyond the point of Ukraine needing the go ahead to hit Russia big time because the way it is going Putin is slowly even at huge cost gaining the upper hand .He has to be stopped full stop .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    He's a weak leader in comparison to what leaders around the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,762 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Ukrainians are as thick as bricks if they continue to have a lot of people together for military ceremonies.

    It’s a senseless and utterly avoidable situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Eastern European and Scandinavian leaders who are giving a much higher percentage of their GDP in terms of weapons to Ukraine.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭rogber


    Terrible tragedy. Outrageous that that poster seems to be implying you have ulterior motives. Some so called Ukraine supporters seem to care as little about Ukrainian soldier deaths as Putin does about Russian soldier deaths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Why does that make him weak? Did you mean something else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,791 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭vswr


    I still reckon Mirage's will end up in Ukraine



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    If only Gripens got sent.



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