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Oasis Reunion. Its finally happening😱

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,189 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Exactly, I spent 2 and a half hours in the que yesterday only to be told I was a bot when it came to buying the tickets. Absolute sham of a company.

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    well maybe but with a step being taken to break a monopoly you’d have to assume a more consumer focused view would be taken too and enshrined in legislation. So maybe there are issues with doing away with dynamic pricing but published price lists would be provided as well as maximum price limits for tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Are you a Ticketmaster rep, per chance?

    yeah, a guy with 12 thousand posts on boards.ie is a ticketmaster sleeper agent who’s been waiting 15 years to spring into action.

    We’re through the looking glass here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,072 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I'm not your pal, buddy.

    Who said that was my 'best' response? I'm simply staying what I see from reading your posts.

    Not the first time I've seen you come to defend Ticketmaster's gouging practices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,682 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I think you're right that knowing going into it how much tickets will cost or the price range would be a great thing, I'd love to see it. The FOMO at checkout leads people to panic and pay whatever.

    I think if that did happen though, they'd just say "Tickets between €86 and €500 (subject to demand)". And we'd be back at square one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,430 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    No more dates according to The Mirror

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,682 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Ticketmaster didn't gouge customers, Oasis did.

    It's like getting annoyed at the petrol pump for the price of petrol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭Nermal


    If you think there was 'gouging' going on, why aren't you getting angry at the band who decided to gouge you, instead of the company who just facilitated the payment?



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    That’s what I’m getting at though. No vague terms. Ticket set prices published per level, seating vs standing for example. Max price €400 say. But at each stage where demand pricing will kick in you’d have to punish the prices in advance. They know this stuff. I’d expect the pricing strategy was finalised in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭TracyMartell


    I don’t think you not getting oasis tickets would be too high up on the governments agenda no…



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Until there are! There’s money left on the table. They’ll swing back after the European leg to hover up any remaining domestic demand.

    Really this is all just a coordinated FOMO fest. Nothing like heading into a European tour with massive pent up demand which will make European customers weak at the knees to get in on the action. It’s all part of “the hottest babd/ticket in town” image BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,072 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    You must be extremely naive if you think Ticketmaster representatives don't sit down with band representatives and discuss the best way to maximise profits within a certain venue location.

    You're almost making out Ticketmaster to be brainless drones, bumble around offices, saying 'yes, master' without any input whatsoever. That's absolute nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,072 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Get this, it's possible, now bear with me for a moment, to be angry at both.

    (As an aside, I didn't buy Oasis tickets as they're shite)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,906 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I don’t think regulating Ticketmaster and ticket sales properly would solve everything, but it definitely could solve some things.

    Demanding more transparency around ticket pricing and availability would be a welcome first step, as would banning ‘official’ price gouging. I’m sure some bands would continue charging an arm and a leg, but their power to do so in the more egregious ways would be curtailed.

    The anti-tout legislation has actually worked largely as intended and cut out widespread touting. No reason other unwelcome practices that the legislation doesn’t cover couldn’t be challenged too.

    Though of course it’s important to note it’s actually a relatively small number of ‘mega-gigs’ this actually applies to. Most bands charge fair prices, tickets are pretty accessible, and the only thing worth grumbling about is the still-too-high transaction fees Ticketmaster add on to every sale and the shite drink selection at many venues 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    But it literally said on Ticketmaster what you got for each ticket. I do agree though that all prices should have to be clearly disclosed before the sale



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Kennytheboy


    U must have missed out on tickets to be this upset, pal. And if u think they are shite, why comment in the reunion thread??? Plenty other places for that. Now support acts? Blossoms?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,077 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Today's listening..

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  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you really think anyone believes Oasis need to have it explained to them by a ticket selling site, if you use dynamic pricing, you can make more money from what everyone knows will be tickets in enormous demand?

    Seriously?

    I am always bemused when I read the “you must work for XXXX” in response to a post, it really is the lowest calibre of response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭jj880


    What was different about the listing for the higher price tickets apart from the price and the words "in demand"?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭Nermal


    It's possible, but makes absolutely no sense. Ticketmaster is a commercial entity incentivised to maximise revenue. Oasis are not, and have made a great deal of their working class roots in the past, and have the final say in pricing decisions. All of your anger should be directed at them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,413 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I assume you are directing this towards people like myself. You're not the first poster to accuse me of "Supporting Ticketmaster" or similiar.

    I agree in your assertion that the vendor should publish a clear pricing structure prior to the tickets going on sale. From 86.50 isn't very clear or fair. Lots of vendors do it - it's a common marketing technique - but in situations like this it is murkey at best.

    However, at every point in this process the client has the opportunity to withdraw from the purchase - they are very clearly told, when they get past the queue, what is available and it's cost including fees. At that point they have the opportunity to buy or not as the case me be.

    As for the milk anology - part of this is supply and demand, there's no need for a significant queueing system for milk for obvious reasons. And at every point in the transaction you can decide to leave the queue, or not engage in the process at all, or pay what is being asked for what is available at that point.

    I'd appreciate not being called a supporter of Ticketmaster as I amn't actively paying into their revenue stream and in them absense of them paying me I am at worst a netral observer (albeit one who engaged in the ticket buying process, got to the top of the queue, was offered tickets for €415 each, and decided against going further)

    The competition angle is interesting. People are suggesting the issue is that there's not enough competition for ticketmaster, surely the arguement in this instance is that there isn't enough competition for Oasis, or indeed Croke Park or any number of variables involved in the whole thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,253 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Fuckers

    Told ya that was BS

    Even more frustrated now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭nc6000


    That's a shame but would probably have been a repeat of yesterday's shambles if more dates went on sale. It's probably for the best as they've managed to upset a lot of people already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭cantalach


    In the cybersecurity world, detection technology with a high FP rate is not seen as “pretty good”. It’s seen as pretty poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,253 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Nah it would of gave more fans a chance to see them and somewhat forget about the shambles yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭eggy81


    I’ve loved oasis since I was a 12 year old in the early 90s. Got to see them a few times in the 00s. Won’t be buying any tickets for this tour though. Maybe next if they tour again because I’d say after this tour demand will fall off a cliff. They could barely sell out the 3 arena by the time they split. Amazing what absence does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,682 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    The other point on the milk analogy is that when buying milk (or whatever) you're buying a product.

    When buying a ticket, you're only purchasing a license to attend a specific event. And that license can be revoked. So it's not really comparable to buying anything in a shop (I know it wasn't you who made the analogy first) as you never actually own anything with a concert ticket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,682 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    You're right, I phrased it really poorly. I was trying to say that its quick to stop anything it thinks is a bot.

    But of course the false positives seemed way too frequent and it happened to me too at numerous points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭crl84


    They don't. Thats the job of the promoter.

    You don't seem to know the first thing about how a gig is put on.

    A lot of people in here that don't seem to even be aware of the basics of the live music industry and angry at posters for trying to educate them and absolve them of their ignorance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    There's another aspect to this overlooked and it also relates to the annual Glastonbury ticket scrum. Purchasers/bots with superior internet speeds and devices are always going to have priority over those less fortunate.

    If punters want this system to change there has to be a mass consumer strike against it whenever these ticket scrums for far off dates arise. Don't participate. Let Noel play to a full stadium of the Real Housewives of Cheshire types and Ernst and Young accountants and see how he likes it.



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