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Is Dublin really safe? *Read OP for mod warning*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Absalutely. Dubliners spend holidays in Youghal, Belfast, Louth, Clare…. all over Ireland and abroad. We're very well known for holidaying in our own country and we're very familiar with our country, the cultures, the sub-cultures, the food cultures, the beaches, the cities and towns etc.. (unlike the ignorance you displayed when it comes to your capital) I holiday in Ireland at least five times a year.

    But that's holidays, do you go on holidays because you hate wherever you live? Maybe you do, but we don't.. We holiday to experience something different, to get a break from the norm and then we go back to our homes.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    While acknowledging that the OCS area really does need a better police presence, you are always going to get a rosier picture of a city visiting as a tourist than living there. Many, many people rave about Dublin after visiting it, but they also probably didn't have much cause to go to Marlborough St.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    Christ above, you've been on here for a few days now doing nothing else but whingeing about Dublin.

    If wherever it is you live is so much better than Dublin, it seems odd that there isn't much else to be at there aside from spending one's time on Boards obsessively banging on about Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    But you said you didn't believe someone from Dublin would holiday in Youghal?

    Do you need your own asserting this stuck under your nose?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I didn't. I said you were lying when you inferred that you though you knew someone that drove to Youghal to go to the beach and now you're backpeddling and trying to say you meant you knew someone that went to Youghal on Holiday.

    So I was right, you were lying!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Dublin has a junkie problem in its urban core that's offputting for people looking in from outside Dublin.

    This thread seems to be full of people asserting that there isn't a problem if you avoid the problematic urban core.

    If Boards was a Dublin only forum then this probably wouldn't be a problem, as users wouldn't be bothered talking about what they already avoid.

    But this forum is not geo restricted so talking about how offputting the Dublin junkie problem is is not whinging. I used to love to visit Dublin, but now it would take a very unique event for me to bother being near the urban core.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Wow… just say your history @yagan

    Obsessed with Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    So you believed that I was asserting someone drove their family to Youghal for a quieter beach, and not a holiday beside a quieter beach.

    So you only do day trips from Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    I'm not myopic about Dublin's junkie jamboree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭Augme


    But you're the expection. And that's a you issue, and not aDublin issue. Maybe as youve gotten older youve gotten more scared of big crowds or large numbers of people? The tourists still flock to Dublin, the country folk still flock to Dublin for a GAA match or concert etc. There's a reason hotels in Dublin are so expensive, and it isn't because people are staying away from Dublin like you are.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    I'm the expectation?

    I will admit I do avoid gangs of scrotes causing havoc on and off O'Connell street. I guess that makes me an old fuddy duddy.

    BTW, more and more GAA folk don't hang around. The new planning permission for more hotel beds around Croke park means even less exposure to Dublin's junkie jamboree for those up for the big match.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    And plenty of Dublin is outside the M50...

    The north inner city isnt the only place in Dublin to socialise or spend leisure time.

    Discount the north inner city, you still have way more to do and more safe areas to visit and socialise in in Dublin than you do anywhere else in the country.

    Maybe its the small town mentality that has you thinking the city centre is the only option to do anything, as it is in small towns and villages.

    Dublin is made up of lots of small towns, with lots of variety. The north city centre is 1 of maybe 50 districts.

    The vast majority of those 50 districts are as safe as anywhere in ireland and are not populated with junkies and scrotes.

    So youve a choice of maybe 40 to 45 areas in Dublin to spend your time in that are as safe as anywhere in ireland and collectivley have more to see and do in them than Cork City.

    In other words, Dublin is still the best place to be, once you avoid the small amount of rough areas, which is easily done.

    I agree with you the council and govt need to sort out the north inner city, but even if they dont, the rest of Dublin still beats everywhere else as a place to live. Hence the cost of housing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Yeah, but people don't travel to Dublin just to hang out in Rialto or Donnybrook.

    I've never seen a "Visit Rush, county Dublin" anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Actually, people do visit those areas from out of town and so do a lot of Dubs that dont live in those areas.

    But now you're getting it, plenty of nice places to goto in areas like Donnybrook or Rialto, or the countless other districts that dont involve junkies.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The North Inner City is also quite a large area. Henry St down to Capel St is absolutely fine with absolutely huge footfall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    Yep, West of OCS is certainly better than OCS itself and East of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    It doesn't have a junkie problem in its urban core.

    It does have very specific areas where dereliction and begging and anti social behavior are common. It's urban core is much wider than those small areas. Which absolutely need improvement.

    2 friends of mine stayed last summer for a few days in Dublin and they couldn't believe everything there was to do. They are regular visitors with a purpose, but this was a holiday, they were very happily surprised by Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Really? You absolutely should. North county Dublin is lovely and Rush and Skerries 2 very pretty little towns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I did a leisure cycle a few years back out that way, Skerries gave off a good vibe, Balbriggan looked dodgy, does the size of the nearest Garda station give a clue? lol

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,370 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    No, you will have to explain?

    You know the Garda stations haven't changed in size for years



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    They usually prefer to come to live in Dublin. I'm just back from the beach by the way, low tide, onshore sea breeze, almost empty, a few out on the water, sound of skylarks in the dunes. Stunning.

    Have you ever thought about posting on regional forums about a place you love, rather than repeatedly focusing on a location you abhor, detest, loathe, avoid, & will never fully understand or comprehend? Maybe consider sharing the positives and virtues of where you live instead? It's a lot healthier and you'll be a lot less angry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Funny how anyone complaining about Dublins problems is labeled as angry, lacking understanding and hating Dubliners by some posters on this forum. They get very touchy when someone points out its obvious flaws that the rest of us can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    I have never heard anyone say they moved to Dublin for its beaches. Never.

    I've heard of plenty of people of specifically moved to the whest because their main sport is surfing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    I agree. Before we got the option to transfer out of Dublin we were looking at that area. Rush is massively underlooked in my opinion. Donabate is good too with the beaches nearby.

    Anyway the quality of life we enjoy now could never be achieved in Dublin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    I knew people who moved from Sao Paulo who thought Dublin was nice. So what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,037 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I dont think its that. Its that some people label the entire Dublin area as if its all like O'Connell St or Talbot St.

    As other posters have said, there are lots of really nice areas in Dublin where the issues you see in the north inner city are just not a thing.

    The best areas of Dublin are nicer than anywhere else in the country. Those that can afford to live there, choose to do so over anywhere else in Ireland.

    If you are lucky enough to live in a nice part of the capital, you are spolit for choice in terms of services, events, nightlife, festivals, retail, infrastructure, schools, job opportunities and so on. Not to mention the beaches, seafront, sailing clubs, mountains, forests and parks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    This is the problem with this thread title, it isn't specific.

    If the thread title was "Is …(insert any of the nice Dublin suburbs) really safe?" and the overwhelming answer would probably be yes.

    If the title was "Is the north inner city safe?" then we'd have people from safe Dublin burbs piling in.

    All this means is that north inner city is as much a dumping ground for Dublin suburbs as it is for the rest of the country.

    In this respect the junkie jamboree isn't just a Dublin problem, it's a national problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    You forget to mention that people choose to move to Dublin for the congestion too.

    Obviously I elected to leave Dublin because I'm bitter, or something.

    It wouldn't have anything to do with it being a poorly planned transport underinvested gridlock?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Most of the North Inner City is absolutely fine. I've been hearing this nonsense about it since I was a child.

    There are a few, localised areas that have clear substance abuse problems. Though they are also not particularly "unsafe".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭elstingeo


    Dublin City and county itself is safe. It depends where someone is. If you were to travel to another city, then I’m sure you could find many unsafe areas of any city.

    Exercise common sense and you’re fine. It isn’t very fair to question the safety of a certain city if you haven’t taken the time to exercise common sense, accepted the associated risks with being in a city compared to a rural area and also realised that nowhere is inherently safe in todays world unless you want to live in a bubble?

    I am in Dublin all the time and I’m fine. I travel to the city, I’m on the luas, I walk around. No problems.



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