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HVO100 diesel fuel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    It just doesn't matter what anyone says, you'll just keep beating the EV drum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    See, I'm not beating any drum, you don't like what I wrote, so your placing me in your perceived opisition, I'm not the one in here spouting that "EVs are dead" "hydrogen is the way forward" "ice for ever" , some of you don't seem to get the practicalities of the alternatives, or how good we had it with cheap oil, a time thats never coming back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    You were against HVO because you thought a chocolate company was making it .

    And you're still against any form of future fuel, be it synthetic, fossil or waste based.

    What drum is left to beat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    In fairness I think it's a bit unfair to be coming on here dissing HVO just because EVs are the future, a bit like those who go on the EV section and spread the FUD.

    2035 is 9 years away and there will be plenty of ICE fuel sold between then and now, and even after 2035 as the crop of ICEs sold in 2035 will probably hang around for another 8-10 years afterwards. So realistically ICE fuels will be around in some form or another for the next 15-20 years and in that time HVO will help cut emissions

    As for linking HVO to a chocolate company

    Tesla CEO supports Donald Trump

    VW was founded by Nazis

    China builds most of the continents EVs

    Saudi Arabia, a country known for killing gays and not treating women very well, supplies most of the continents oil

    I suggest glass houses and stone throwing be kept off the motors forum in general



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I think you're mixing 2 different groups, the "right" thinking and the "right wing" thinking. Most but not all right wingers support him and none of the right thinking do. They are two completely different types of people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,369 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Never seen HVO for sale in Kilkenny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,577 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Filled my car last night in certa in Cork. It used be the case that the price of HVO and diesel were the same, but I noticed (after paying) that diesel was 165.9, petrol was 170.9 and the hvo was also 170.9.

    Don't know if this is a permanent change or not.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,718 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Yep 3c if a difference now between Diesel and HVO at my local Certa



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    Didn't read the full thread where I redactated that and offered an explination



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    You jumped in with two feet complaining about a chocolate factory, when you knew nothing about the subject.

    How can anyone take your opinions/statements seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    Anyway.. back on subject.

    For anyone planning to park a diesel up for the winter, hvo100 has a self life of 10yrs compared to 6 months for b7 diesel.

    Something worth considering, but you'll need a full tank of HVO, any mix of b7 will be liable to deteration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    so, someone cant make a mistake , which i explianed two postes after, while trying to learn about somethinbg, and that to you, emans somone cant be taken seriously? i can see why you have 5000 posts on an internet forum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,577 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    On the back of this post, and other posts from people saying that HVO runs cleaner and ignoring the environmental benefits (or whether there is any) - is HVO a generally better option than diesel in most cases now?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes obviously because it's made entirely from recycled oil and food products. In other words, there is a big reduction in Nox and it burns much cleaner in the engine and if you care about Co2 it massively reduces Co2 emissions as it emits captured Co2 from growing the seed that produces the Oil that is re-used.

    So it's really using oil and food twice. There should also be a significant reduction in excise and Co2 tax on this fuel but the Government see only battery EV as the only planet saving tech out there ignoring battery production lol. BEV the future diesel gate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    One thing with HVO100 is that it has no Sulphur, so it burns cleaner in your engine.

    Regular Diesel fuel containing sulphur, once burned, creates Sulphuric Acid, which corrodes your engine (but i don't see this as a big issue, as engines aren't falling apart on regular diesel), But the advantage of lack of sulphuric acid, is that it should in theory keep your engine oil in better condition for longer.

    I have noticed that after running exclusively on HVO, and having had a few oil changes, the oil is staying cleaning for longer.. But thats subjective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Interesting development for HVO fuel. Presumably the engine can run on regular diesel as well if needed

    https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2024/0828/1467038-carlow-fire-station/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,431 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Ye, it should run on both. Don't want to rain on their parade too much but looks like all they have there is a normal fire appliance with some 'fancy' stickers (and has hopefully been tweaked to run HVO more efficiently) and a battery maintainer solar panel on the roof, the usefulness of which is debatable on a vehicle that spends most of it's time parked inside.

    A PHEV/HEV appliance running on HVO might have been more newsworthy, BEV are available too but I don't think they'd suit 'rural' fire services yet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,042 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    As long as they've charging at the base a full EV fire truck would work, these things wouldn't usually be doing huge distances.

    But therein lies the problem EVs work out much more expensive when you're not racking the mileage up. Similarly I'd say the modification needed to run on HVO more efficiently is a cost they'll never see back so unlikely to have been implemented



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cheap oil, petrol, Diesel well maybe not in the E.U which use liquid fuels to absolutely screw people in tax but in the majority of the world liquid fuels are pretty cheap.

    I do agree with you on one point and that car ownership is getting more expensive, this is 100% true be it petrol or diesel which is one major reason I am 100% committed into not buying into all this expensive technology again.

    One of the reasons when I got rid of the id3 and got the Kia is because the Cee's is a far less technical car, it's much less of a tablet, I don't want much tech in cars for it to go wrong or distract me whatever drivetrain it has, one of the things that attracted me to motorcycling is how cheap it is, or can be and how mostly it's just man and machine with little tech though this is changing fast now too as many modern bikes have tablets for dashes instead of much nicer looking analogue dials but luckily there are manufacturers making modern classic bikes which are hugely popular and car manufacturers are missing out on a more classic tech free line up and of course the E.U rather than enforcing better driving and training will instead force manufacturers to put more annoying tech in cars that beeps and bongs at people.

    One the main reasons cars have got so expensive is because people are buying them and willingly getting into big debt.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You say this as if people who thing more right wing are bad !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    its not a political issue, are you coming from a political pov?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My text was supposed to include a quite from Red Sulirian which I gathered that he thinks right wing people are bad or trump supporters are bad or perhaps I read him wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Gerard93


    Is HVO available around Limerick City ?? Circle K Ballysimon Road have it anywhere else ??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,754 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Caseys Circle K in Roscommon now has a HVO pump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    HVO was 5¢/l more than diesel in certa glounthane today.

    Looks like the days of certa price matching HVO with diesel are over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,577 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Ya, it's been matched with petrol for the last few weeks...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,369 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Does the fact HVO has no lubrication for the fuel pump scare people. A fuel with no lube and high pressure expensive pumps seems like a bad mix .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    I was led to believe it was as lubricating, if not more so than regular diesel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Birka


    It has lubricity additives. Otherwise it wouldn't meet the EN15940 standard



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