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Russia-Ukraine War

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    So Putin launched whatever missiles he has because Telegram is going to be gone through with a fine toothcomb.

    Putin is worried his secret account will be found out. ..

    It'd be normal Putin behaviour. The weirdo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,441 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    I think it was also a crucial run of combined arms manoeuvers that the west needed to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    It's mad. We see French, British, American jets rushing to shoot down a few score Iranian drones in order to defend Israel, a very capable military power. Meanwhile Ukraine must fight a much larger foe also using Iranian drones, with limits on attacking where the assaults are launched from.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,593 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Zenelsky needs to use every weapon to its best capability, not beg to use them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    yep, and a demonstration that they could do it in secrecy too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Putin and his leadership grew up, educated in, started in the Soviet Socialist system.

    Zelensky wasn't , we weren't. The Soviet Socialist lesson would be to let Kursk burn, let everyone in it die but focus on taking Pokrovsk. That's a win and people are only people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    That was an enormous missile attack on Ukraine. Reports suggest it cost Russia over a billion to conduct. Would make you wonder how many missiles Russia still has. I'd love to know how many they produce each month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    More how they can still produce this kit after two years of sanctions and having a smaller economy than Italy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    They might have a smaller economy then Italy but their military industry is huge. Look at neighbouring countries exports to Russia. They've sky rocketed. Russia is paying a premium to import western tech needed for missiles and getting them through third parties.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I don’t think the West will ever understand Russia.

    For years they have spewed out propaganda and misinformation that now America is more divided than ever, job done there thanks to Trump.

    They think differently after years and years of Authoritarianism and dictatorship. The Russian people are a lost cause.


    The only thing they might take notice of is a defeat on the battlefield.


    It’s an emerging democracy versus a bully Authoritarian, there should be only one winner for the sake of humanity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Yes, I have been transparent which is what you continue to fail to be able to comprehend.

    • My post 4818 mentioned 'retribution' ( I was clear in how I clarified it 4821/4853)
    • Your post 4820 jumped straight in with an assumption of "Suicide by Nukes"
    • Your post 4880 continued in your own assumed vein of "nukes/Da bomb"
    • Your post 4882 is a continued misrepresentation of what I'd written in numerous posts to fulfil what ever conversation you thought was happening.

    You openly admit you made an assumption in your own post 4899 - long after my first post about it. "Totally reasonable to assume" in your own words. You can assume, I wouldn't say it was reasonable what you arrived at, but when told your assumption is wrong, generally best not to get overexcited trying to reinforce it be just making up your own narrative and show your inability to admit you were wrong all along.

    Your also a great one for demanding answers, any chance you could answer where I'd advised they should refrain from antagonising Putin?? You've dodged it a while now.

    Post edited by Suckler on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Two days after I'd mentioned the potential loss in Pokrovsk, Forbes put out this - I suppose the usual suspects will just accuse him of being "Pro-Russian" for having the temerity to write the article…..

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/25/ignoring-the-ukrainian-invasion-of-kursk-russian-regiments-keep-their-eyes-on-a-major-ukrainian-prize-pokrovsk/

    But it's, *fortunately, not a done deal just yet.

    ('Fortunately' meaning a good thing for Ukraine for those who make assumptions)

    If there’s a glimmer of hope for the beleaguered defenders of Pokrovsk, it’s that Russian losses in the sector have been “heavy,” according to the pro-Ukraine Conflict Intelligence Team.

    And there are signs the losses are weighing on the Russian advance. “On the Pokrovsk direction, the enemy is beginning to experience resource shortages,” the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies noted. “The number of advance directions has decreased from seven to three in the space of two weeks.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    I see Ukraine warning Belarus about troop build up. I would say that's a diversionary tactic to fix part of the invasion force away from Kursk.

    I often wonder would there be a mutiny in Belarus if they were forced to join the war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    Numerous articles explain how they are largely able to get around the sanctions by dealing with other countries with no morals only strategic interests, so they still have way more resources than the Ukrainians despite endless claims they'll run out of everything soon. Of course their economy is suffering in other areas but these repeated claims that they face imminent economic collapse are the usual wishful thinking, unfortunately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Why hasn't Putin done a false flag in Belarus and brought them into the war?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,458 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's hardly his fault, if uses them without permission he may not get more.

    The Storm Shadow he wants to use is manufactured or supplied by 4 different countries at least, he would need permission from all 4.

    It's an absolute travesty he has to beg in public at all.

    This war is 2 boxers, one with a 80 inch reach and other with 40 inch reach, the lad with the 40 inch reach is roaring at his corner for help and is largely being ignored and has been since the start.

    It's very hard to compete in anything let alone a war when the rules only apply to one side.

    It makes what Ukraine have achieved even more remarkable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    You are just not capable of spending even a day without doom mongering and making snide remarks about other thread contributors, incredible.


    Let’s just ignore that vast majority of drones and missiles including “unstoppable” hypersonic ones from the largest attack in history of this war yesterday were stopped by a country that didn’t fall three years into three day war.

    Or that the frequency and volume of missile attacks has greatly gone down as Russia has to save months and months of production for what ultimately is a giant waste of money only so they can target civilians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,660 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They would have to spend resources defending the place. It wouldn't last a week on its own.

    Also it wouldn't work. Luka doesn't need a false flag to do what Putin said so you are relying on his military and people falling for it which they probably won't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There's no way the Belarussian public would be on board with a Belarus - Ukraine war. They are western leaning and mostly strongly dislike Lukashenko and Putin (and certainly have no beef with Ukraine). A war with their Ukrainian neighbours would be deeply unpopular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    Actually I post plenty here that's not "doom mongering" as you call it, but you simply ignore everything apart from stuff you feel you can start an argument over. Why didn't you comment on the article I posted about the Russian pianist who heroically sacrificed his life in opposition to Putin? Or the Forbes article that offered a balanced overview of Kursk and Eastern Ukraine? Maybe because they don't give you anything to attack me with? Your intentions are so transparent, all you want to do is snipe and undermine and try and bully people into silence, we saw it over the weekend as well with others ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    You think the life of this Russian pianist is more important than all the civilians Russia has killed since?

    How “transparent”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm reminded of a quote about Italy in WW1… if they join the war they'll get into trouble and we'll have to send 10 divisions to save them. If they attack is, we'll need ten divisions to hold them off. Either way, same result.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭rogber


    Where did I say that? Nowhere. You were already called out for spreading lies about me recently ("outed yourself as a Russian") and now you're doing the same again?

    I have condemned Russia's murder of Ukrainian civilians literally hundreds of times here, which is all the more reason to honour the handful of Russians who show moral backbone. Something you absolutely refuse to do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    That’s exactly what you are implying , spare a thought for the “poor ordinary Russians”, oh boohoo cry me a river (Crimea?)

    I didn’t comment on this pianist because it wasn’t worth commenting on, perhaps except pointing out your weird constant attempts at propagating Russian narratives of misery and “resistance is futile” nonsense when not busy sniping at imaginary posts

    Russia can disappear into a black hole tommorow and nothing of value to humanity would be lost.

    If they want to live in a larger version of North Korea, fine, off they go, but starting and continuing largest war in Europe since ww2 and daily threatening everyone with nuclear apocalypse is not on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭scottser




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    I wouldnt just single out thatsdaft. Rogber, Suckler etc and other have been derailing this thread with sniping arguments for a while now.

    This infighting is exactly what the Russians want us to do! 😜

    The oil storage facility in Proletarsk is in bits .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,405 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Lol

    GV6oJ-1W0AApGHI.jpeg

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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