Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Both sides disagreeing over the ABC debate rules.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/26/politics/trump-harris-september-debate/index.html

Surprisingly enough, it's Harris who is arguing that microphones should be live the whole time, rather than mics muted when the other is answering. Seems like Harris' side is banking on Trump not being able to stop himself from interrupting, making Harris look more Presidential and likely giving her the chance to point out how he can't control himself.

Trump's side arguing that the rules should be the same as the previous debate with Biden.

I can see the points being made by Harris' team, but also not sure if this is the hill they should want to die on.

His people are pleading with him to do a lot of things but he isn't listening to them.

Regarding fox.

If harris does attend but fox allow him to just rant and ramble like a rally it doesn't look good to any independents.

If fox do actually run a proper debate and harris performs well, the rants about them being part of the msm fake news cabal start again, which again doesn't look good to any independents.

If harris doesn't attend and they just let him ramble and rant like a rally, it doesn't look good to any independents.

Either of the above and you have the motivated ignorant etc who support him saying how well he did and how bad/scared harris is.

Big Jim Ross has to be commentating

Pence isn't Trump though. Pence was likely reciting prayers in his head half the time because a woman was talking to him without having gotten permission from her local priest.

When Trump debated Hillary, he muttered a few jabs while she was answering some questions which got a lot of attention and went fairly viral (even though the basis of them were nonsense). He knows how to get the soundbite.

That said, Kamala also isn't Hillary, and I'd say she'd be more capable of bouncing something back at Trump and not allowing him to dominate the conversation even if he did interrupt. It's a fairly key skill you'd have to have as a prosecutor & attorney, to both bait the witness into slipping up and then hammering them for it, while still getting your point across to the jury.

A lot of spinning online from both sides, but the rules they agreed to the debate should be stuck with and neither should be allowed to change them to give their candidate an advantage. Whether its Harris (it seems like its her) or Trump wanting to tweak things, ABC need to stand firm here and stick with initial rules.

Yeah I agree that Harris could handle Trump much better than Hilary- but I’m just not sure it’s the right thing for her to do - I get the feeling she’s being fairly well managed and choreographed - she was “gaff prone” remember - steady as she goes would be my advice - “no surprises”

I reckon this is all being carefully manipulated by the Harris side. If Trump doesn't get his way, he could easily go home and take his football with him. Which can then be spun any way they want.

personally I think Harris needs this debate just to strut the stuff she’s good at doing - Americans haven’t had the chance to properly see her in action as a presidential candidate - she needs this debate more than Trump does is my view - they know what they get with Trump- if they don’t know Harris well enough a certain crowd won’t vote for her and that might be the crowd that gets her over the line

I don’t think the jersey was “stinky”- if it were I reckon 30 million would have been more accurate

Fact checking everything he says isn't plausible. He generates lies faster than it is humanly possible to counter them.

No he means the time to fact check a lie exceeds (often greatly) the time to fact check that lie.

“He used to tell me ‘it doesn’t matter what you say, Stephanie, just say it enough and people will believe you.’”

https://newrepublic.com/post/185089/trump-mocks-supporters-stephanie-grisham-dnc

The only reason Trump would attend the debates is if he thinks he needs to do so. I don't say this as some change in personal policy toward debates - I think it's been true since at least the Republican primary cycle where he didn't attend debates.

Polling is neck and neck right now. The debates are traditionally the last set piece of the election cycles and both candidates will be wanting at least one, and to do well enough in it to establish some kind of daylight. I think Trump needs them just a smidgeon more, though, because the numbers have been trending in Kamala's direction, and that's a movement he'll be keen to stop.

Sadly, not true for many Americans. Just a case of the haves and the have nots.