Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

1535456585970

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,947 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    A Cmod who should step away from CA as clearly has blinkered options on news sources, politics and posters on here. It's known as a conflict of interest. Post away as a normal poster is fine.

    I will stand by that opinion and never move from it and from these threads a lot of other posters feel the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭I.R.Y.E.D


    So some who believe and repeat conspiracy theories like the great replacement are being attacked by others when challenged on their views and by being shown how their evidence is factually incorrect, and the mods are facilitating these attacks and ruining the site when they issue and won't rescind warnings or bans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought this thread was for about feedback of the site as a whole, did I miss when it became individual poster wars



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    The search on desktop site is ok, even viewed on mobile

    IMG_20240825_140358.jpg

    If you click on 'discussions' instead of 'all' above, you get more search options on the right hand side, you can enter a few key words under 'title' and that will search threads with only those words in the title

    IMG_20240825_140433.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I expect they'll be along shortly to close it, citing the above.

    It's relatively pointless anyway given that the mods and admins all agree (after exhaustively investigating) that they have no bias at all at all.

    There's really nothing to be done, given that a stubborn minority of us still resist all re-education efforts and insist on taking the evidence of our eyes and ears over correct-speak.

    Further, the site owners appear to have abandoned the place and perhaps it would be a mercy if some day soon we were greeted with a 404 message as someone suggested earlier will eventually be the end of boards.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Well, I appreciate you starting a discussion from a pro-active position rather than the anti-position I referred to in my post. I do feel that maybe that discussion could be held without making immigrants a focal point of it and suggesting they would be better off in their own countries. But as I said, I appreciate asking 'What can we do' rather than the Ian Paisley approach of yesteryear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,367 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The poster's feedback relates to the conduct of other posters. If you are talking about claims v 100+ highly active posters getting away with "abuse", and that it is being facilitated by biased moderation, that becomes site wide in scope.

    Not sure how you can challenge such feedback without it also becoming in part about the individual making those claims.

    But it is focused on CA... the gone quiet forums have few champions here for obvious reasons.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,026 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    No you didn't, you've commented on it repeatedly.

    That detour in the discussion was/is particularly useful I feel because of how moderators are viewed in the context of how they moderate on Boards.

    The type of discussion on here in terms of focusing on posters isn't something that is permitted throughout the site generally with the 'broad sweeping but subjective 'don't attack the poster rule'. I've long felt allowing posters to challenge each other on an individual level should be permitted as long as it doesn't cross a line.

    That happening here as it did, was revealing in a way we rarely see on the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Where precisely did I focus on immigration as you say?? Please point it out. And be good enough to apologise for the type of slur that I do instance at the base of my post. I did not state or focus on immigration as the source of housing problems. I merely mentioned that our 'new arrivals' would do best to help build there own nations. But the focus of my post was on what we Irish citizens and society should prioritise. Your reaction and that of below just proves the very point that I was making about bias.

    Ditto.

    But yous are only only ordinary posters and entitled to your opinions and I and others are to ours. The issue for boards is when the sort of conclusions you tend to jump to immediately are echoed by moderators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,029 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I'm long enough in the tooth to remember Feeky McGee and the craic that was had around that, Terry, etc, etc. Even when people were being called to task there deffo was a much more community vibe about the place. Why exactly I don't know, more meetups perhaps, maybe people that were friends offline were here and it gave a sort of veneer of community, also the type of people who have access to the internet is much greater; any idiot with a phone is online now. A big part of the reason for decline though is forums aren't how most people spend their time online now. Boards was of it's time and I'm sure will survive but the current trend is what it is and I don't see anything changing that.

    The current thread on the stabbing incident in Solingen is a sad reflection of the place on both sides of the argument compared with some of the great debates I've read the back and forth on here over the years.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Considering the lack of willingness from some to compromise, it might be easier for boards to just stop the discussion of current affairs altogether and keep the site as a collection of specialised fora.

    Theres a lot of users here who to my mind have demonstrated that they are here primarily for a bit of argy bargy, and if those types of personalities are tolerated for too long they just drive decent users away, they're contributing to the slow death of the site as a whole so maybe the likes of current affairs should be left off of the platform if they can't be discussed in a civilised manner.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    ^^^^ @nullzero

    Second # checks out.

    These users don't give a $hit about the site and will delight in running it into the ground



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Says the man with a string of thread bans. If you can't comport your self in Current affairs in a way which doesn't get you regularly banned - maybe you should abscent yourself from that forum for the good of your own health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    All three thread bans I've accumulated in the 15 years I've been on the site have been as a result of defending myself against people such as yourself who are only looking for an argument through misrepresentation much like what you've included in your post just now.

    As has been pointed out previously I have taken accountability for this and am using the ignore function to circumvent those types of situations in future.

    Not that my presence on any forum is any of your business Shoog.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    A similar element of users crept into the comments section on broadsheet a few years ago. There was a nice community of posters there until these people arrived accusing the site of being far right etc, eventually the site closed down and those commentors were revelling in its closure, it's very similar to some of the guff being put forward here about boards turning into stormfront et al.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Just on your point about "decent users", many of the posters who contributed to this thread are now banned and must have caused a lot of unnecessary Mod intervention and work. They will probably make a reappearance at some point, to cause bother again.

    If someone is constantly having to be monitored and getting a lot of bans, then they are surely causing the "argy bargy" you speak about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,981 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Since Musk took over Twitter there is no regulation as to what is posted so it might be a time to update the site rules.

    Posters are using it as a source often without comment to dump anything they come across to make or backup a point.

    The danger is others clicking them links and ending up down the same rabbit hole.

    Just a single example from this evening leaving the poster and thread out of it as its not relevent.

    2.png

    1.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,553 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    This goes back to you blaming others on moderation actions against you.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,981 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    And this is the kind of stuff posted in AH in a supposed light-hearted thread.

    1.png

    This is what is killing the site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    The point is that those who are repeatedly coming to the attention of moderators need to learn how to post within the lines rather than asking for the lines to be widened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Nobody it would seem is capable of being civil, particularly in this thread, however only people expressing certain opinions tend to find themselves on the sharp end of moderation for the most part, that's the point that was being made.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    But you've claimed in comment #1671 that all your thread bans are from defending yourself against other commentors, not for expressing your opinions.

    So, which is it? Are you being sanctioned for your opinions or for your comments/behaviour when defending yourself?

    And, do you even know the difference? Because you've said many times over this thread that you have to defend yourself against other commenters and that is what gets you in trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Your OP was of that post was focused on immigration.

    The government regularly spins numbers of new houses built and mortgages given to first time buyers but is there ever any breakdown as to nationality benefiting from this. I presume our many new non nationals on valid work visas working in tech and medicine etc are all included in these purchases & mortgages.

    This housing business and the squeeze on young adults has been an issue before but I see it really exploding now as an issue. There is no easy fix for the government and they insist on pouring petrol on the fire by actively allowing the population to expand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    It's that type of passive agressive posting which encourages people to respond in a way that will result in a ban. There is an exceptional amount of 'baiting' I've noticed from people who are regarded to be on the "compassionate" side.

    "For the good of your own health" is, without context, compassionate, but you have chosen, deliberately to make it sarcastic and patronising. Yet you can still claim the moral high ground by leaving it open to interpretation.

    While it's true, nothing you have said would warrant a sanction, you have posted it in such a way to garner a reaction which would result in a sanction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I'm not talking about me.

    I'm talking about the perception of inconsistent modding generally.

    The last thread ban I received I was trying to reply to something like 38 replies from people being openly uncivil towards me that I received within a couple of hours. I was told that by replying to them all I alone dragging the thread off topic.

    I was issued with pointed warnings for two separate posts a day after they were posted, the logic being that I had been warned once and the ignored that warning and posted again, the problem being that the first warning came a day after the second post was posted, the logic and timeline was flawed.

    The mod in question understood why I felt unjustly treated and offered to over turn the ban but not lift the warnings, I refused on the grounds that only one warning should stand not two, the issue went to Dr and was reviewed by Ancapailldorcha who had been abusive towards me in that thread, and he upheld the ban, big surprise.

    So whatever perception you have of me wanting the rules changed to suit me is completely baseless.

    I want the rules applied evenly across the board, that is not happening currently and having dispute resolutions overseen by someone who is so hostile in their approach to discussion on threads is a conflict of interest.

    It would be useful if you could take on board what I'm saying instead of making assumptions.

    Post edited by nullzero on

    Glazers Out!



  • Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nullzero has repeatedly blamed others for his own behaviour, cannot comport himself in a way which remains civil within current affairs and is clearly very upset about been constantly victimised.

    His solution is to stop anyone else debating when really the only appropriate course for him is to abscent himself from the discussions which clearly get him into repeated trouble. I have literally never seen a poster spend so much time in jail for their behaviour.

    Frankly I avoid getting into debates in which he participates because I already know the outcome both for the quality of the debate and him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I'm not able to report posts currently, but that post from Shoog was a prime example of a post that warrants being sanctioned on thread.

    Like you said, it's pure baiting and adds nothing to the discussion at hand, just jabbing at someone for the hell of it.

    Yet another poster calling my mental health into question which is an absolutely disgusting type of commentary.

    Glazers Out!



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,546 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    I haven't blamed anybody else for my behaviour.

    I'm not stopping anyone else from debating either.

    I have been jailed twice on boards in fifteen years, so your statement about me being constantly jailed is way off the mark.

    Your comments relating to my mental health are completely inappropriate as well and the height of hypocrisy when your commentary on my behaviour is taken into account.

    Glazers Out!



This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement