Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

It's been blocked with roadworks at the petrol station.. not sure if they're finished now however.

This has unfortunately been the case since before the cycle lane, there isn't enough space for a right turn lane to turn right into East Wall. Short of making one of the three entries one way, there isn't a clean solution that won't annoy a lot of people.

I love the finish here but does anyone know if we're getting things to lock our bikes to here? It's a pain going to gaffneys or kennedys as I am now with these barriers the only option.

Went through there earlier, to get onto the two way cycle lane coming from the port you've to cross like a pedestrian or scoot across if the motor traffic is stopped.. then as you get to the Lidl the roadworks have the lane blocked off… so you can either get back into the motor traffic or try scoot past the entrance to the filling station, however you run the gauntlet of cars turning into the filling station who aren't looking at anything coming from their near side.. I'd say avoid that section completely unless you're coming from Alfie Byrne rd.

Think we need some kind of plastic bollards or something. 🤪

There’s a large delivery truck parked every morning where that white van is. And an articulated lorry at Tesco on the path each morning too. Think someone mentioned the path won’t take that kind of weight, without damage, on a regular basis.

Sure, though cycle infra needs to compete with motoring infra, i.e. be fast, direct and flowing… Making traffic light crossings, and like what you have on the Fairview park section, ramps, narrow lanes, cycle traffic lights just slows things down..not to mention all the people on bicycles coming against the direction of travel.. and the exiting/entering motor vehicles at Westwood and the Dart station and it's more like an obstacle course…

I hope the patchwork you describe comes together eventually, though I just find that using the regular road is faster in many cases..

Tesco should face a 50k fine every day until it stops

Just on the subject of having to stop and wait to cross at pedestrian lights to get to the cycle lane.. here's an example from new cycle infra in Blanch.. basically double the time to cross the road instead of going with the flow… typical of the design by engineers who don't cycle…

https://x.com/Fingal_Cycling/status/1827657290620575808

Thanks, shows my point which I made earlier that if the various local authorities keep wasting millions on poorly designed cycle infrastructure then no one really will use it.. and it will inflame those stuck behind a steering wheel "But They won't use it Joe"

Is the issue there really the design though? If the cycle lane is beside the footpath and you have 6 traffic lanes, turning right is obviously going to be difficult. As the video points out, it is the timing of the lights which makes that turn so long. The partial crossing of Shugborough Road, only as far as an island, and then crossing the off slip from the N3 adds a lot of time.

Cyclists can obviously use the general traffic turning lane if they wish but many cyclists won't want to mix with that traffic. I'm sure many would see the extra time as a small enough trade-off.

Sure, I get your point.. The cycle lanes aren't designed for people who want to get to their destination fast.

However, if the aim is also to get people to swap the car for the bicycle on the commute then the Bike needs to be faster or competitive on time..otherwise people will stick with the Car as the faster (easier/safer) option..

As for what's all this with the Dutch video.. I'm thinking with their vast experience they would prioritise the bicycle and not the motor vehicle as the design in Blanch has done.