Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Now that Harris is formally the nominee, it will be interesting to see if any of the old school republicans like Liz Cheney or even Bush will endorse her. Would probably involve a carefully worded statement where they say a Harris endorsement is for the good of the country but they aren't endorsing Democrat values.

There are a lot of very damaged people on social media (the angry, shouty ones). Easy for them to mock a teenager and his close relationship with his father when they have probably experienced very little love or stability in their own lives.

that meme captures so much

I suppose, for the week that's in it, we can finish off with this..

these?

The primary source of that sort of declaration has been threadbanned.

Kennedy has withdrawn his name.

Some may comment thats a boost for Trump, but at 3% polling I honestly think it makes no odds.

Now its a straight fight, a straight choice. Self-serving proto-fascism, or cosy liberalism.

My personal politics would be neither extremes, but all things considered, I'd be voting for Harris.

And I think thats whats going to happen in the swing states. I think Harris will carry all bar North Carolina.

I say this as a man in his 40s with no obvious special needs, if I was witnissing my father accept the nomination for Vice President candidate of the USA, I'd probably shed a few tears myself.

I remember watching the rugby with my dad a couple of years ago and it announced the next game coming up was the womens game. He said he doesn't like watching womens sports because they always cry whether they win or lose. I said to him "Do you not remember Gazza?"

I'm also wondering if a lot of the RFK voters are people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump, but didn't want the Democrat either. If their attitude is to not vote for Trump, then the other options could be:

• Vote for Harris
• Vote for another 3rd Party canditate
• or, not bother voting.

So a lot of his 3% might not end up helping Trump at all.

There is one area of concern. Let's say there are two groups of RFK voters. One that is pro-Trump and one that is anti-Trump. The pro-Trump voters will move to Trump and he will gain all the votes of that group. However, most states have other third party candidates like Jill Stein. This means that all of the anti-Trump RFK voters may not necessarily go to Harris. In a super tight race in a swing state, that could matter. That's way the dems will be focusing on voter turnout.

92.9% vote in line with Trump.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/

She is an almost Ghoul who laid the ground for Trump flourish.

That was 4 years ago and she was a neo conservative which would align with a lot of Trumps policy, but she was a neo-con long before Trump got into the white house. She did a lot to piss off the MAGA republicans (freedom caucus) since, which I find recommendable, because it meant her political career within the republican party was over.

Don't get me wrong. I don't particularly like neo conservatives.

Absolutely probable.

Before Biden dropped out, Kennedy polled at 10% in the States he was eligible, after Biden, 3%.

Turns out it had very little to do with himself.

Worth looking at the latest poll aggregates today.

National poll of polls, Harris +3.3%

Women nationally, Harris 51% +2

Voters 18-34 nationally, Harris 59% +6 !!

Middle Class nationally ($50-100k), Harris 47% +2, Trump 43% -3

Independent voters, Harris 42-38, 20% yet undecided, but strongly trending to Harris.

Trump only retains one key demographic, Men 45+