Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

Toyota are now going to use BYD to produce their future PHEVs. That's a massive consolidation between two of the worlds biggest producers.

The EU and US tariffs on the likes of BYD is only buying time. BYD could set up in Japan and sell into the EU under the recent EU/Jap tariff agreement on cars.

Because the inevitable memes would annoy the hell out of Musk and anything that annoys that prick is good imo.

The fact that Prior 1 are german, the home of VW, has nothing to do with it I'm sure

To be fair, his involvement with Trump has arguably helped Tesla since the share price has almost doubled since the election. Time will tell if it also helps car sales. I wouldn't bet against it.

The chap is now getting involved in UK politics and supporting Tommy Robinson.

I can really see a drop off in sales in Europe

Hard to know what he's playing at, Telsa-wise. Obviously the share price is reflecting that he has Trump's ear at the moment but with sales levelling off, the non car-sales bets have to pay off big to justify it. The new Musk demographic is one with plenty of eventual potential for EV sales and the old one had probably yielded all the easy sales already, but I'm not sure it makes good business sense to annoy people who actually want an EV on the off chance that strongly-anti-EV folk will change their hard held principles and buy one. The name and style of the Cybertruck would be totally different if he really wanted to tempt MAGA people to buy EVs. They're not going to be persuaded by Cybercabs or self driving either, especially as fuel is still cheap and their influencers are still claiming climate change doesn't matter.

I think Musk's own attention has moved on from EVs themselves and he's just treating Tesla sales (and indeed Falcon 9 launches) as the money machine for other initiatives that interest him like influencing politics, making America great, AI/robotics, etc.

getting back to the original/ fist post what Musk is currently doing may affect Tesla in another way but not via a drop in sales. His behaviour could lead to his ‘PERMANENT’ demise. Look at the amount of assignations of very high profile. Individuals throughout the world and especially to those that are doing things that are unpopular to some sections of society

Also , it only takes one person acting alone to create havoc.

Political leaders and equivalent have been assinated or attempts of same I

In recent times, in The Vatican, Sweden, Japan , America - many times, etc, etc, etc.

Specifically re Musk - look at what happened to that Insurance company CEO. On his way to a conference. One early morning.

Re money keeping you safe reminds me of those little green men that traditionally minded your car when you parked it around the Rhotunda Hospital in days gone by - and you paid them for the ‘service’. A doctor got fed up with them and put an Alsatian into his car telling the little green man that his services are no longer needed. The man retorted with the. Question “ Can he put out a fire sir ?”

At what stage do you stop caring about money?

realistically he only has half if not less than his net worth is. if he went to cash in his shares, the price would tank