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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    There is no way a rookie manager like Andy would make any difference to the Mayo team, than the current management group are doing. We have some good players but no really good player. Our lads will work hard, but in reality are not that creative. I don't think we have any forward who can kick comfortably of both feet, which is a huge advantage for the great forwards who are playing the game. Our lads don't look like they have the overall confidence grab a game by the scruff of the neck, and battle it over the line. Quite the opposite in the past few months. Let the Galway match., the Derry match, and the Dublin match slip away.

    I think the only way for the Mayo team to make progress is by one of the really top managers to come in - Jim McGuinness, Jim Gavin etc. I know that won't happen, but I just think the ordinary run-of-the-mill manager won't make any difference based on the players that we have. I would put Mayo in the likely to reach a quarter final category for most years. But unlikely to reach a semi-final unless they got a handy draw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Even if they got a handy draw, I wouldn't be confident. They have a habit of playing to the level of the opposition a lot of the time. and frankly, the psychology of the current group is really poor imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    I was actually going to comment that several sessions with a psychologist would not go amiss. I never really believed in that sort of stuff, and I still don't know how it really works. But I see some teams like Donegal and Armagh. And they demand the ball, and seem confident in what they can do. Probably over-confident. But our lads don't seem to be able to match that determination and ambition. I know they go out and do their best. But there are many many times in games where they makes half-assed runs for the ball. Kinda like - "I'm showing for the ball, but I don't really want it, because I am not confident of getting a shot off".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭PressRun


    I agree. You can see the hesitation in real time when they're on the ball, especially around shooting. Some of that I'm sure is down to coaching and all this "high percentage", overly cautious stuff going around nowadays, but I also think a lot of it just self-esteem, bottle and leadership. When it's in the melting pot it's usually the older Horan-era lads who try to take responsibility - Aidan, Cillian, etc.. For all Horan's failings as a manager, I do think he instilled a sense of confidence in the players who came up under him. Not sure the younger crowd really have it, aside from maybe Ryan O'Donoghue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭muddle84


    No Specifics as such, its just that the whole book was very vanilla. Everyone was great and everything was great. No criticisms. But the more I think about it, its just a book, he wasn't going to ruin his relationships in a tell all book and share what he really though.

    So on second thoughts, I think the book is no basis for how ruthless he can or can't be!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    I would agree and the manner in which we play has not helped but I also think it has become a culture. I don't think we had that prior to 2021 where the mentality was focussed on wining and performing. I mention a few months ago that it would appear some players are happy to just be in the set up and I think McStay is letting that continue. It really is a tough business to be an inter county footballer and deliver on a consistent basis. It is not easy but that is the ask.

    When you look at what McGuinness has done in a few months with that Donegal squad is really impressive and they have brought that tough mentality and culture back so that they are contenders for SAM. Even when you listen to McGuinness, I can see why they play so hard for him with his drive and his passion for Donegal is so evident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Odds for the 1st round of the senior championship:

    And odds for the intermediate:

    Aughamore v Ballintubber & Claremorris v Belmullet the tightest two games in the senior although I think Kilmeena could run Breaffy close enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Any championship season pass for Mayogaatv? Their website is an absolute mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Scores from the weekend (taken from the mayogaablog):

    SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

    Group 1

    • Aghamore 0-12 Ballintubber 1-9
    • Breaffy 1-13 Kilmeena 0-12

    Group 2

    • Mayo Gaels 0-9 Ballina Stephenites 0-21
    • Balla 0-12 Westport St Patrick’s 0-14

    Group 3

    • Ballaghaderreen 1-10 Knockmore 1-9
    • Claremorris 0-21 Béal an Mhuirthead 2-13

    Group 4

    • Castlebar Mitchels 0-13 Charlestown Sarsfields 2-7
    • Ballyhaunis 0-11 Garrymore 3-11

    INTERMEDIATE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

    Group 1

    • Lahardane MacHales 0-9 Crossmolina Deel Rovers 0-16
    • Moy Davitts 3-8 Louisburgh 1-10

    Group 2

    • Kiltimagh 2-9 Hollymount/Carramore 2-10
    • Castlebar Mitchels B 1-8 Davitts 1-12

    Group 3

    • Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin 1-12 Ballinrobe 0-15
    • Kilmaine 1-18 Kiltane 1-12

    Group 4

    • Ardnaree Sarsfields 1-12 The Neale 0-12
    • Burrishoole 1-14 Islandeady 2-10

    JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

    Group 1

    • Cill Chomáin 0-8 Swinford 0-3
    • Bonniconlon 1-13 Kilmovee Shamrocks 0-7

    Group 2

    • Ballycroy 1-12 Northern Gaels 2-11
    • Shrule/Glencorrib 0-9 Tuar Mhic Éadaigh 1-7

    Group 3

    • Ballycastle 1-5 Eastern Gaels 3-12
    • Killala 2-10 Achill 1-9

    Great result for Ballagh; that really puts us under the cosh in the next round at home to Claremorris who seemingly played out a good game with Belmullet - EOD's sending off sounds like it was a big turning point in that one.

    Decent results also for Aghamore & Charlestown in senior. Even though they lost, Balla were a lot closer to Westport than would have been expected but it looks like it'll come down to themselves and Mayo Gaels for the relegation playoff spot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    They were probablya few in Balla that took advantage of the 13 points handicap spread. Seems like a fantastic bet now, I think Ah Ref had highlighted it in advance as being a good one.

    I was at the Breaffy Kilmeena game. Breaffy were comfortable enough throughout, just seemed to have enough for Kilmeena. Saying that I was fairly impressed with Kilmeena for a team coming up from Intermediate. Carney landed some massive points towards the end. There seems to be a bit of a buzz around the Breaffy squad with Deane in charge.

    Huge round 2 games coming up for Castlebar, Ballintubber and Knockmore in a couple of week's time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭Panrich


    I’ve been out of the county for many years but what is happening to Swinford? 3 points on the scoreboard at junior level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I wouldn't know a massive amount about the Junior teams but they had a decent win the previous week against Bonniconlon. Not sure about their current team but Cill Chomain used to play a very defensive brand of football so that presumably played a part but even still, 3 points is a very poor return from an hour of football



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    It’s a long journey from Swinford to Glenamoy, and Cill Chomáin have been quite defensive in the last few years. I think Ruanes bookmakers had Cill Chomáin as favourites for the junior at the beginning of the competition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭BandMember


    I thought that Swinford were the outright favourites with Eastern Gaels second and Cill Chomáin third?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Blackjack




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mike Solan has been appointed Longford manager.

    It will be interesting to see how he does.

    Does he still have the potential to be a Mayo manager or has that ship sailed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭muddle84


    Good luck to him. He did well with underage in Mayo, but I always felt that u20 final was lost on the sideline. After that final I didn't hold out much hope of him cutting it at senior level.

    But who knows, like you say, it will be interesting to see how he does with Longford!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I'd say he'd be in the running if he does well with Longford alright. They're in D4 next year and none of the other teams stand out particularly so promotion is a possibility. They lost all 3 games in the TC so the only way is up on that front.

    Hope it goes well for him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    lots of noise that we could be looking for a new manager!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Westernview




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Got a message on it so not sure if it is bs yet but there is something up. I’d say Rochford should be gone at a minimum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Westernview


    There will be every sort of rumour going around now during the vacuum of the off season. Quite possible that there will be no changes at all. Who knows.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's 10 years ago today since that famous game in Limerick.

    It was the most dramatic sporting event I was ever at, until the 2016 drawn final out did it for drama.

    Bad and all as the result was that day, what was most annoying to me at the time was seeing Donegal beat Dublin the next day, and thinking what might have been.

    10 years on and post 2021, I have a more cynical take on it.

    It didn't matter, they would never have won the final anyway.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    @Audioslaven - form being on this site for years I have come to think of you as a poster who is not prone to posting dramatic one liners.

    Your posts tend to be detailed and measured.

    In my opinion you are one of the more knowledgeable posters here.

    But this is a dramatic one liner.

    There might be something in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I agree. Seemed at the time like a missed opportunity but all the indications are that we wouldn't have beaten Donegal. We beat Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Donegal at various stages but didn't have the mindset to win a final regardless of the opposition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    …l



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    Dominic Solanke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Was at the Knockmore v Claremorris on Saturday, lovely evening for it. Decent win for us in the end after it being tight for long periods but not a great spectacle tbh, a good few simple errors and slow build up play. Holmes & Dempsey went off injured with what looked like hamstring injuries midway through the 2nd half to go with our existing injury list.

    Darren McHale & Orme were quiet enough considering they're two of our county players; Kevin Mc came into it in the last 20 and helped push us clear. Mostly it was the younger lads who performed best, Battle, Staunton and particularly Hopkins had good games. Claremorris are very reliant on the younger lads like the Hurleys & Beirne but I think they'll need a year or two more before they can really compete.

    That group could easily finish with 3 teams on 4 points and it might come down to scoring difference for either a home quarter final or no quarter final. Ballagh are doing much better than most expected

    Good result for Garrymore, Castlebar are seriously underperforming IMO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,627 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    It could also come down to 3 teams on 2 points as well Mac! A lot to play for in the group.

    Was away for the weekend so had to listen to Ballintuber Breaffy on Mid West. Anyone I've talked to seemed to backup the commentary, a very unBallintuber like performance at home to Breaffy. Still hard to gauge where Breaffy are exactly but there's a new energy there with Sean Deane in charge.

    The knives aren't just out in Castlebar, they're being waved around the place... Is what I was told and that was after the Charlestown game. Big pressure on the big man. They're still in it though, and they could make it through without winning a game - 3 draws would be enough for them, even if Charlestown won (by no more than 4).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,892 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    I was in Clogher Par, Breaffy were excellent. Deane & Neary were excellent along with AOS and COS. Well organised in defence and great kick outs from the goalie. I think they looked serious contenders.

    Ballintubber were a shambles, things are not good there if reports are to be believed



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