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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Again, this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the tax rates paid in both jurisdictions and is just another comment on salary rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭uptherebels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    I'd say we have a centre left society now but government is still centre right because they're propping eachother up.

    When the repeal ref was being debated half of the sitting FF tds actually voted against a referendum on the issue being allowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,795 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    That you made wide ranging claims without evidence, I've no doubt vulture funds are only out for themselves but they way they have been portrayed in recent years is borderline cartoonish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,777 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …i always think you have to be careful making such judgments about society as a whole, you d be surprised of the amount of right leaning folks we have here, with a growing number of more extreme right, but we do also have a large amount of center left leaning people here to, as i am myself….

    yup, ffg will prevent any alternative government being formed, for as long as possible, and it ll work to….

    …this will cause significant social unrest, helping to move more and more towards the extremes, this is gonna get very very messy…..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    We're off tangent from the thread but I reckon there's plenty of skeletons in both FG and FF cupboard that could implode either party at any moment. the way i see it is that compared to the past society is more liberal now on personal choice, but that liberality also extends to any policies that favours house prices being kept high; or basically liberal individual voters that also vote conservatively to prop up their asset values.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,133 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Do you reckon?

    To what information do you owe this insight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭yagan


    I consulted with the hawk, and he agreed.

    I suppose we should get back on topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Just the vulture funds? Or you struggled with the others as well?



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    A week later

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    Outside of frothiest AI companies where there is clearly a bubble everything resumed the up and to right trajectory

    Yup, some “recession” that ended up to be



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    If you can't make money in the Irish property market at the moment, you're not trying very hard. Or you're a really bad business person



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    only takes one or two bad tenants to make a profitable business a very unprofitable business overnight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,777 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …although this can be very true, the real gains in property is in flipping the asset after some time, as prices are amongst the quickest to inflate over time….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    that’s exactly the point…the time it takes to resolve problem tennant and get removed from property restricts the ability to dispose of the asset at fair value



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,777 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    there definitely is a serious problem in regards landlords being unable to appropriately evict problem tenants, but since theres virtually no public back up in housing, this is preventing such to happen, it shows the serious dysfunctions occurring within the market as a whole, evicting people with no alternatives available, would simply cause far more serious social dysfunctions. the whole process is a mess, and getting worse, we have to reintroduce appropriate numbers of public/social housing again into the system, in order to be able to implement appropriate eviction polices, but thats actually not gonna happen, so on we go….

    …our current approach actually isnt truly working for either tenants or many landlords, but larger institutional landlords have far greater state and institutional protections in place, compared to much smaller, single landlords etc, smaller landlords are deeply exposed at the moment, but thats extremely common in many other sectors, as sme's are generally far more exposed to environmental market conditions compared to much larger, corporate entities etc…..

    …its a serious mess….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    public housing just means rent not paid to someone else which then leaves the only option being deduct from source. (All because of a small minority of people who know that there is no consequences for there actions). It has nothing to do with social v private housing!!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,777 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …and little or no public/social housing is one of the main reasons why landlords simply cant evict people, so you either want you some sort of solution to our housing issues or you want even more dysfunctional outcomes, including for landlords…..

    ..i do actually agree with a deduction at source, but an increase in welfare payments would also be needed, as many are simply not paying rent as they cant meet their needs as is….

    ..increasing welfare would in fact obviously directly benefit recipients, but the economy at large, as most money received would be spent almost immediately into the economy, benefitting the businesses that receive these monies, therefore creating further jobs….

    …oh god its god a hell of a lot to do with public v's private housing, as most western economies have moved away from a more public housing approach, and moved more so towards market based approaches, and surprise surprise, we re all experiencing the exact same housing problems, i.e. hyper inflated property prices, highly dysfunctional markets and serious supply problems….

    …and surprise surprise, countries that have maintained a more state centric model in regards housing, are not experiencing as serious problems, although some problems in themselves, but no where near as serious as our approach….

    …so fcuk yea, its got everything to do with public v's private, although the solution is clearly a mixture of both, but thats actually not going to happen, not this decade anyway, and maybe not even next decade either, so get ready….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭Timing belt


    …..put the money into training or on accommodations to help people with needs in the workplace as opposed to just writing them off for life…. That would be a much better use of funds than just increase benefits across the board… but that’s a different topic. With regards not paying rent and problem tenants it’s worth remembering that some of these people not paying rent and causing issues wouldn’t qualify for social housing anyway and are doing it to pull a fast one because they know nothing can be done….Thats what’s wrong with this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Good news for supply chains given the chaos in the Red sea with many shipments having to go round Africa. Shipping from Chinese ports to Europe should be quicker and cheaper now the Northern Sea route has officially opened.

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    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like the new alternative global payment system will be popular.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


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    I'm not even bothered with my usual denunciation of how stupid BRICs is as a thing.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    It is only an alternative, another option for businesses to conduct global trade without the worry of getting caught up in political matters. Of course most the world will join up, it will be quicker, cheaper and can use whatever currency you want. It's not the end of the world and perfectly legal, it's called progress.

    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Deub


    another option for businesses to conduct global trade without the worry of getting caught up in political matters

    Are you still talking about BRICS payment system here?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    because famously the BRICS countries aren't caught up in any political matters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,795 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    …..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭Deub


    Then it is sad really. It is as if I say Tesco is a charity organisation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Danye


    So folks, the huge recession that was scheduled to happen following the market collapse two weeks ago, is that still on schedule or what’s the deal?



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