So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

@Brussels Sprout Just a few things that came to mind with you sharing them screenshots?

• Do you have the above setting enabled?
• Or had you to click through the warning to see them?
• I'm sure more extreme content is available but not suitable to share here!
• With all the screenshots you took, by any chance did you report any tweets (for all the good it would do)?
• On twitter, I can choose not to see and even block that content.
• Posting here people don't have the option not to see it.

@eightieschewbaccy Most platforms would be actively banning Nazis but Twitter is actively receiving subscriptions

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

Elon Musk’s X is a thriving hub for Nazi support and propaganda, with paid subscribers sharing speeches by Adolf Hitler or content praising his genocidal regime.

NBC News found that at least 150 paid “Premium” subscriber X accounts and thousands of unpaid accounts have posted or amplified pro-Nazi content on X in recent months, often in apparent violation of X’s rules.

https://fra.europa.eu/en/eu-charter/article/11-freedom-expression-and-information

I would still be in favour of the above, even if it means above content is platformed. I have choice to read/view/block it.

And platforms like Twitter are still entirely deserving of criticism for profiting off of and promoting Nazis. Historically groups like stormfront pretty much disappeared due to violating terms of hosting services. I think most people would agree that this didn't act as some disservice to free speech. The fact a billionaire has made one of the largest social media platforms into a hub for white supremacists and neo Nazis is very much so a public safety issue btw. So regulations on such platforms tends to be a consequence.

And I think we're gonna see such consequences in the EU and US for such platforms. Most don't have the same issues as Twitter though.

Unrestricted free speech is literally what you want, you don't see the issue with them promoting Nazis over unpaid users.

I would still be in favour of the above, even if it means above content is platformed. I have choice to read/view/block it.

I already called it VILE content, that I didn't need to see to know it existed! And enforced your statement with the link provided https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020

I maybe bad expressing my views on it, difficult topic to articulate on.

Supporting free speech means supporting the free speech rights even of people you vehemently disagree with. In fact, it means supporting especially the rights of people you vehemently disagree with. If you only support the free speech rights of people you agree with, or mostly agree with, or at least don’t completely disagree with, you are in fact supporting suppression of speech. ~ https://controlaltbackspace.org/free/

Vile content on twitter (probably more extreme than what is screenshotted) we are discussing but fine to be shared on here as well? @Brussels Sprout is utilizing his freedom of expression in the content posted.

I see people saying this a lot but if you just stick in your "following" feed I don't see any of that nonsense. Yes the "for you" feed is utter shite but I still find the service use able if I just never look in there.

Just ban X in the EU ... its a dangerous platform plus it would piss off Musk ..... win,win

Rogan really is an idiot. He falls for stupid right-wing conspiracy theories all the time.
In a newer episode, like a week ago, he was claiming that the democrats were pre-recording the State of the Union addresses instead of having them live.
One of his staff asked him how he knew. He said if you looked at Bidens watch you would see the time flip around.
The staff member asked him how the democrats got the republicans onboard with this conspiracy, considering they are there and seen in the audience.

He pauses and says “ah man, the trolls got me”.

He is an idiot who cannot critically analyse anything, and will just believe what he is told. He is dangerous because he gives a platform to people who will take advantage of that, like Alex Jones.

For the record I never use the "For You" feed. I exclusively use the "Following" feed.

However, as I mentioned above I like to read the replies to tweets and I often click through to view the profiles of people's accounts. That's often how I regularly come across this abhorrent content.

Now somebody might say - "Well why don't you change your behaviour then?"

To that I say that I have been using this site for 12 years. This is how I have always used it.

I liken it to someone who lives in a city centre. If they remark that they've seen more open drug taking, aggressive begging and petty crime on the streets recently and suggest that something should be done about it by the authorities then the response shouldn't be "Perhaps you should move to the suburbs instead".

Putting up blinkers so that we don't see the toxic content on Twitter misses the point. Millions of other people will still see it and it'll continue to poison the social and political discourse in countries throughout the world.

Not US Congress, Republicans

America has Section 230!

https://aura.american.edu/articles/journal_contribution/Section_230_Parler_and_the_Illusion_of_free_speech_on_the_Internet/23769723?file=41709219

Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act was born. The law
itself is fairly curt and straightforward because presently, only section (c) stands [5]: “No
provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker
of any information provided by another information content provider [6].” For further
clarication, this means that websites and other internet-based services are not held responsible
for what users themselves post or the platforms, the users themselves are responsible ….

Probably why UK is targeting individuals and sentencing them for social media content.

And I agree that free speech online is an illusion!

Disclaimer: Sharing a tweet! Not endorsing the account linked or mentioned

That article was hard to find on the website/'X' had to search for Cianan Brennan, had the paper myself and epaper for below screen capture.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/spotlight/arid-41457280.html

Further, in the Irish context, those spreading the misinformation and causing the unrest saw that Ireland’s political parties were not quite sure what to do with the new status quo — with some even showing a willingness to bend their ideology more in the direction of a greater intolerance for immigration than for which they had hitherto shown an appetite.

Interesting twist on the the title, instead of 'controlling the narrative' the above.

As I don't have anonymous 'X' identity, and not one to post controversial stuff. I wonder if I was arrested would they say I was radicalised by 'Elon Musk'!? 😀

And in case someone wondering if I have looked at 'Waynegb88' account, I haven't because I don't want to trigger the algorithms by looking at it.

The tweet highlighted there wasn't the reason that that guy got in trouble with the law though.

It was for content like the following:

He knew what he was doing was wrong but he didn't care cos he was playing the online tough guy

Womp Womp

@Brussels Sprout I knew that the tweet quoted wasn't the offending tweet. People probably afraid in the UK to retweet his other tweets. Anyway after posting I googled the account and read a few articles on him.

Do you believe 3 years is justifiable for been a keyboard warrior? I don't know because not a lawyer.

When this gets the following: -

Former special constable jailed for possessing more than 1,000 indecent images of children

• At Warwick Crown Court last week O’Connor was jailed for eight months, ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register for 10 years and made subject to a 10-year Sexual Harm Prevention Order.

Fresh UK prisons crisis as riots lead to fears of overcrowding
Exclusive: emergency plan set to be introduced that could see alleged criminals released and court cases delayed

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said: “The first job of this government is to keep people safe, and the new lord chancellor has taken action to make sure the justice system is always able to lock up dangerous offenders, protect the public and reduce reoffending.

“Operation Early Dawn is not active and we will notify the public if it is activated.”

You're bang on, people absolutely need to be accountable for what they say no matter where they say it. You shouldn't be able to say whatever you want if what you say is a lie, is a defamation or a slander, or encourages others to hate and violence. Free speech without consequence is not what society needs. Society needs to protect its truths, its facts and its standards and some wanker who gets his chops from 4chan should not be given the same credence as a journalist or an academic on issues like race and immigration.

Besides, most of us have at best an abstract relationship with free speech. Who really wants to sit and listen to someone advocating about their right to have sex with minors or the science behind rape as a cure for homosexuality? If free speech added something genuinely new and valuable to current debates then great, but all the current crop of free-speechers can muster is hateful, ignorant bullshit.