Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

I don't know anyone on the thread who's in favour of maintaining current policies.

Personally I think we need to move IPAs to state owned accommodation as soon as possible and getting realistic about tackling the housing crisis.

What proportion of our population growth is due to IPAs?

i don't know how anyone can say with a straight face that approx 20k/annum asylum seekers, who now by law need non temporary accommodation after 3 months, isn't putting a strain on the housing market.

'Non temporary accommodation' is still not private housing or apartments, either owned or rented. Vast bulk of people in the country seeking accommodation are certainly not competing against asylum seekers for it.

You're making excuses for strangers for no reason (well there is and we all know what it is) you won't be thanked for those excuses …….if you saw a bunch of fellas from say Coolock for example 'going about their day' hiding themselves you'd be the first top say yeah no good

Twenty thousand, minimum, this year. They may not be competing directly or personally against people want to rent or buy, but there will still be property taken out of the system to accommodate some of them. Anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

The majority of asylum seekers, regardless if their applications are successful or not, will eventually need to be housed just like the general population and this will be done using the same housing stock.

No the state doesn't need to start buying up vast amounts of the limited housing stock in Ireland, the state just needs to speed up the "Asylum" process and immediately deport the failed applicants.

Once the claim is approved and they have the right to work and cannot find work then they can apply for job seekers allowance just as anyone else is entitled to.

To meet their accommodation needs they can go view flats/houses etc. just like anyone else and pay the going rate.

The state (FF/FG) will take the path of least resistance. . . . and that will require that immigrants are prioritised as the potential for immigration unrest on the streets is far greater than the potential for civil unrest among the local population as they can be controlled using the media, legal system, NGOs and enforced emigration.

It must be remembered that there is an entire government department now set up to deal with this and it won't be stopping at tents and social welfare, and this department is hoovering in taxpayers cash at an astonishingly increasing rate over the past few years.

I suspect that the rates of immigration and emigration will rapidly increase over the coming years.

Average occupancy in the state is 2.6

Numbers don't add up

Until Europe decides to do something about immigration, its only going to get worse here. Our politicians on the international stage are an embarrassment and always have been, seeking a little pat on the head from their masters.

Liam Browne has been unbelievably good during all of this shambles, I'm so glad I voted for him

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/2024/08/15/housing-irelands-population-is-growing-at-nearly-four-people-for-every-new-home-built/

It is very, very important that immigration in general to Ireland be reduced dramatically. There aren't enough houses, hospital beds or school places for what we have already.

It's an inconvenient truth, but the truth nevertheless. In no way does that truth justify thuggery.

The Government have failed spectacularly. Ten years ago we had an economy that was about to recover and very few capacity issues. The economy did recover, but they also allowed a very high level of immigration and there is a savage housing crisis and no possibility of the required improvements to services, as they are being overwhelmed by the rise in population. A clusterfcuk.

It seems the major government departments Health, Education, housing and Justice are failing and god knows what else is in a shambles and the government don't seem to give a crap about it and instead come out with BS statements and it seems there are very few journalists who are looking to ask them the hard questions and hold them to account. Is it any wonder people are angry and even worse is the lack of opposition who should be laying into these incompetent ministers and lets be honest Donnelly, Foley, O'Brien and McEntee are all incompetent and that is being nice to them.

You're clearly as entrenched in your view as those you accuse others of so there's no discussion to be had really ..

as an aside there was an observation made that a couple of jacked goons hiding themselves in that vid bear a physical resemblance to the 2 balaclava jacked goons in the Thornton Hall video telling an Irish woman to get off Irish land with no visible authority to do so……..this is what you're making excuses for, down the road

No plan. Just flood the country and ensure the landlords get rich