Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

Did anyone watch the trump v Musk interview? Is it worth a watch?

I've no interest in watching a back slapping conversation between two of some of the most loathsome public figures at the moment. I'll watch the CNN / MSNBC analysis instead.

Trump had a lisp? Get you’re hearing checked! If you could hear properly then you’d realise that it wasn’t a lisp at all but rather the sound made by a desperate man talking bollox while, at the same time, orally pleasuring a potential donor weighing up if he should waste $45 million a month on a losing campaign.

"during whatever that was"

🤣🤣 fair f***s.

The clip I heard had Elon say "you know", about 5 times. For a moment I thought I was listening to a County hurling finalist, not one of the richest most affluent men in the world.

Gish Gallop,

Live fact checking would stop him in his tracks

drip drip drip

“I know nothing about Project 2025” yet the training videos show dozens of personalities recorded for the training introduce themselves as high ranking political members of the Trump administration

You should read it.

Most of it is in words of one syllable or less, there is executive summaries etc.

It would be almost hilarious if it weren't so genuinely reminiscent of Italy and later Germany between about 1920 and '35.

The best thing America could do is for anyone with a voice to turn a harsh spotlight on some of these goons who have written it and send them scurrying.

Trump is the patsy here (although no less complicit for it), the real danger men are former mid level cheap suits in his previous administration, namely the current leadership of The Heritage Foundation.

Managed to ninja Epstein in as well (0:19) I see 😆

I must admit, after that assassination attempt I assumed that he had just been handed the presidency. That you could have called it there and then.

I do believe that, had Biden continued, Trump would have won the election. Now I'm not so sure. Harris does need to do interviews. Sure, she's all smiles and jokes on the campaign trail but she needs to show she's not Hilary Clinton. Hilary Clinton was not very likeable and came across as cold and arrogant in the debates and he was most definitely a protest vote*

Waltz has that whole "Minnesota Nice" thing going which is really effective counterpoint to the Trump/Vance doom/gloom. They (Trump/Vance) need to come up with a new angle. Need to talk about something other than "loony lefties" and "Woke". People have had nothing but that for years and the constant repetition seems to be losing it's effect on what both parties need the most: The Undecideds. Of course Trump's people are going to vote for him. Of course Dems are going to vote for Harris. But it's the Undecideds and middle ground that will make or break the election.

The "Weird" angle really seems to be hurting because it's something everyone can understand and it strikes at a deep level. You can go on about "Threat to Democracy" and "Dividing the Nation" and all that but that (Rightly or wrongly) comes across as overblown. But "They're weird" really strikes home. It makes people look again: "Yeah, that… that IS yeah, that's pretty weird the way they do that. Huh". It's the "Huh" that makes them look again.

So Trump/Vance need to come up with something other than more doom and gloom. Trump congratulating Musk on his mass firings is not going to go down well with the undecideds. You can't talk about The Economy and how people are feeling the pinch while also celebrating the mass firings of thousands of Americans. Again, his core won't care but others will

But Harris needs to be out there doing TV interviews. Not as counterpoints to trump's twitter appearances but simply 5 min interviews on news programmes or chat shows. Whether you agree with them or not, she SHOULD be on some show saying "Did you hear him cheer on a multi-billionaire firing tens of thousands of Americans to make more money? Those are real people! This is not his TV show, Jimmy. Does he know that?"

He needs to come up with a FOCUSED message with specifics. As much of a failure as his wall was, it was a focal point. Something people could latch onto (If not literally). His point about entrenched politicians struck a chord in 2016.* So he needs a solid message and goal that he can bring to the debate(s) and stick to it. Rambling against a younger opponent who stays on point is not a good look. It will make him look unfocused and vague. And he has being saying the same thing for 8 years now.

• I did say it before but even NOW Michelle Obama's name is still out there and let's assume the GOPs worst case scenario in 2016 was Hilary Clinton winning. In THEIR opinion they were probably thinking:
  • Bush 1988 - 1992
  • Clinton 1992 - 1996
  • Clinton 1996 - 2000
  • Bush 2000 - 2004
  • Bush 2004 - 2008
  • Obama 2008 - 2012
  • Obama 2012 - 2016
    • Clinton 2016 - 2020
    • Clinton 2020 - 2024
    • Obama 2024 - 2028
    • Obama 2028 - 2032

And, y'know, it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility. You could have had 40 years of America being run by 3 families. So I totally get the protest vote.

TLDR: IMHO Trump would win election if Biden stayed running. Harris needs to engage the Press and prove she's not Hilary Clinton. Trump needs to focus on specifics on the election or he will come across as doddering and lost against a younger, more focused opponent.

Edit: Typos