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Olympic Games Paris 2024 - AH Thread [Thread banned posters listed in first post.]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Yes how dare an orgnisation provide sports for people all over the country.

    This nonsense happens every 4 years if we win an Olympic medal, lets forget about GAA and throw everything at winning one more Olympic medal just so a few people who have vert little interest in sport in general can enjoy 2 weeks every 4 years.

    It's the real small man syndrome of how we can only feel good about something in this country if it makes us look good in front of a bunch of foreigners.

    Most GAA players play GAA because they like doing it, they aren't being forced into it or prevented from participating in Olympic sports.Sport is supposed to exist for fun and enjoyment not for proving how great we are as a country because we happen to win a few medals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Morris Garren


    Let the GAA manage its own affairs and let such communities thrive as they should. But any future government investment in sports infrastructure should mostly be for multi-sport venues embedded in communities i.e. the promised Velodrome is also home to badminton etc. Sounds like a good way forward. Same with community pitches, fields etc, make them multi-sport if at all possible. The sacred status of GAA needs to evolve away from a parochial exclusionist mindset I think as the more exposed kids are to various options the more likely they are to find their niche or untapped ability



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,793 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I believe Rhasidat flew straight back to the US after the Games ended. She does tend to do her own thing : she didn't return to Dublin either after the successful European Championships.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,829 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Fair points Ceepo.

    I would be more of the approach of letting kids try different sports and let them see what they enjoy.

    If they want go further they can decide. Lot do as they want be successful.

    I think we need give kids more choice and better opportunities if Plan A does not work.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I was there and met most of the athletes backstage (kind of, I was talking to them through a fence).

    Rhasidat has some competition come up so wasn't there. Paul O'Donovan wasn't there, I presume he's in Cork.

    The rest of them are as lovely as you imagine.

    Fintan McCarthy passed his medals through the fence to some young fellas to take selfies. They could've easily ran off with them.

    The other 400m girls spent a few minutes chatting and talking selfies and are as beautiful in real life.

    Rhys seems very sound. Daina is tiny. Kellie was really sound.

    Daniel Wiffen was the only one who didn't come over but maybe he was sick.

    The rower Phillip Doyle is a big unit but very lean.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    I see Finland has failed to get a medal of any description in 2024 for the first time in their history.

    This is what happens when a country doesn't put decent support behind the athletes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I watched it live and the commentators said he offered the tie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    You'll find nobody worse than me for wanting to win but you are a winner getting an Olympic gold medal. If you go through the battle to be the sole winner you aren't getting anything extra. All you are doing is potentially stopping somebody else from getting one. As it turned out he ended up not getting one and I'd imagine he was sick he didn't take the deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭tawfeeredux


    I didn't see anything to suggest a shared gold was offered by either jumper. The rte commentator seemed to assume that Kerr made an offer but there was no chat between the two like there was between Tamberi and Barsheem in Tokyo. Washington Post reporting Kerr wanted jump off; https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2024/08/10/hamish-kerr-shelby-mcewen-high-jump-paris-olympics/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    Strange that it wasn’t mentioned after the totally over the top coverage up to now. She’s probably right going straight back to the States and avoiding it all, especially everyone doing everything they can to avoid mentioning her African heritage as though it is something to be ashamed off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭hamburgham


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Ffs.

    No idea what point you're trying to make.

    She flew back to America cos she has a competition coming up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tippman24


    I have to disagree to some extent about the comments made about the GAA being a problem for athletics. New Zealand won atotal of 20 medals and is a superpower of Rugby Union and also is competirive in Cricket. The population is less than Ireland so the GAA argument needs to be re-visited. I think it is more a case that people may find many of the sports as non-interesting. I will usually watch the European and World athletics championships and the stadiums only srem.to be half full



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭amacca


    At the time there was doubt about what happened...but I have read a number of articles saying it was offered...one in relation to the US team possibly taking a dim view of it if China came top in the medals table...this was on Saturday at some stage...I assumed they were accurate

    Tbh though I could have jumped the gun...its not always easy to sort the speculative clickbait from the trustworthy these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭amacca


    In fairness to hurling it produced one hell of an advert for the sport during the all ireland final this year....it was an excellent game/spectacle...

    A lot more than stick fighting...and very skillful...

    And that's from someone who couldn't give much of a shite about GAA most of the time ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,058 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    RTE? I also watched it on RTE, heard the commentators saying that, and went "WTF are they talking about?". There was nothing on screen to suggest that, they apparently decided that was the case based off their interpretation of body language. McEwen has explicitly said it was Kerr who asked first: https://archive.is/gYw4Z:

    "He said it first, and I agreed to it,” McEwen said

    "“At the end of the day, he wanted to jumpoff,” McEwen said

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,537 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    How many sports does the local rugby or soccer pitch cater for ?

    I love this auld shte that it's everyone pulling together harmoniously except for the GAA.

    Imagine a world without GAA

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tippman24


    In the immediate aftermath of the Atlanta Olympics, the UK Government were not too happy about the fact that the Country had one Gold Medal to show for its efforts. Their National Lottery was intoduced to increase funding for Olympic Sports. However for the 2000 Olympics, the main consideration was to increase the medal count.Cycliing and Rowing wwre the 2 sports targeted for medals. I temember in the cycling the UK cyclist lapped the german cyclist in the individual pursuit. I believe it was the first it ever happened in.a cycling final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    There's no point complaining about GAA anyway as it's going to be around forever and is actually brilliant for Ireland, particular rural areas where there's literally nothing else.

    The key is to expose kids to as many sports as possible and see what they enjoy and are talented in. GAA doesn't impede that. Loads of people in Kerry play multiple sports and that's possibly the most GAA obsessed county.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    The GAA hoovers up most of the sport playing youth in this country at the critical age. I have nothing against GAA they are fantastic sports to watch and play but they are hardly original or unique just a variation of other field sports. They should be made to pay their own way more and open up their facilities and share with other sports. The problem is GAA are too precious about their own sports..the priority should be getting young people playing as many sports as possible. Hurling in the olympics would be fun though we'd get the gold medal each time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,926 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    If you've been following the thread you have seen me say many times that I don't watch RTE unless there's an Irish person in a competition that's not covered elsewhere.

    It was either BBC or Eurosport that I was watching, not sure which.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    In the uk I’d guess that per capita there is an equal portion of the population playing their top three traditional sports (ie sawker, rugger and that ‘bat and ball’ game) as there is here in Ireland with our top 4 ( ie gaa, sawker rugby) and it doesn’t seem to have impacted their Olympic performances over the last number of years…with out looking at the stats I think since Sydney 2000 they have been increasing their medal count no end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It also has to be asked why do we want extra olympic medals and why should we spend more money to get them? If we won twice as many Olympic medals why would that be so great and would the public really care.

    If it's for the health of the population then sharing the extra money between all.sports organisation's would have the same impact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Field east


    amongst many other reasons why we should support potentially elite athletes,- the ‘feel good factor ‘ when they do well on a international scale metalling at the Olympics creates the ‘ holy grail’ Crazyfor THOUSANTS of youngsters to aim towards. There was a seven year old at the airport at the Team Ireland welcoming party interviewed . She came to see the women’s relay team as she thought they were great , that she can also run

    Fast and hope to be as good as them some day or words to that effect.

    DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭jackboy


    No. In reality the Olympians inspire a tiny number of children compared to the likes of the GAA, soccer and rugby. It's once in 4 years wheres the GAA and other team sports are ialways on so it would be better to pump extra funding into that if the aim is to 'inspire'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,537 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Why are you not calling on all the rugby and soccer clubs to open up their facilities ?

    I don't remember seeing anyone playing other sports in my local rugby club and I wouldn't call athletics, rowing or hockey very inclusionary round my way either. With the exception of rugby in Limerick all the other sports seem happy enough in their little upper middle class bubbles and are certainly not about "getting as many young people to play sport"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think people want greater investment in sports in general. GAA and Rugby are already very well run so it's more about the other sports like soccer and all the Olympic sports.

    This has enormous benefits for society.

    The great thing about Olympic medals is that it inspires millions of people to take up sport or even just continue playing sport or to train harder, this in turn will bring more Olympic medals, so it's a virtuous cycle.

    I can guarantee numbers in boxing gyms and athletics clubs will increase this year as a result of these Olympics.

    So it's about building on the success.

    I don't think we're in a terrible place now so we don't need to start from scratch.

    I think most towns in Ireland have boxing, athletics, swim clubs etc..So although there's huge room for improvement, we still have something to build on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,793 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Plus, we have the money to do it and to invest. The economy is booming and we are not in recession. If ever there was a time to try and massively improve the profile and practice of sport across the country, now would be the time to do it. It's a good sign that all of the political parties seem to recognise this.



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