Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

I'm really beginning to believe that Musk is actually the Antichrist as prophesied in the bible.

Hold on a sec there though, Its not conspiracy theory to say Elon is interferring in elections both domestically and foreign. None of that is 'conspiracy' Its entirely factual. He has purchased twitter and removed all moderation, closed down API access to all but specific set of unamed users. He opened community reports to combat false news but his tweets dont have moderation or community notes and he removes them from select accounts.

He claimed multiple times last year and this year to not support any parties at all, Then setup a Super PAC in the US to provide funding to the republican party. Told people that he was giving 45 Million per month (himself with his own tweets) then claimed later it was fake news (his own tweets which he writes) then later claimed the SuperPAC was true. He amplifies false news on a multiple times daily basis. Just this week he retweeted and commented on a made up Telegraph screenshot article about immigrants in the UK that didnt actually exist (no article) .

He is a liar (proven) he holds extreme views (proven) He engages in domestic and foreign affairs like this weekly. None of this is conspiracy.

The man is poison, and hes poison for the company Tesla too, He should be jettisoned. He has literally stolen engineers and funding from Tesla for pet twitter projects. On no basis is that something to be celebrated or lauded. The company could have a bright future but under his tenure it will suffer and is suffering. None of this is conspiracy, people trying to rewrite actual events i am suspicious of, or they really arent bother informing themselves at all.

Sorry, to be clear, I was referring to what Elon is coming out with as conspiracy nonsense. I can't stand the man. Being critical of what he is doing in politics in europe especially (even in ireland where he praised another nutjob, conor mcgregor!) is IMHO the only realistic and rational position to take.

Elon has surrounded himself with too many yes men. He needs someone to challenge him. For most men this is a strong woman (or man, if you swing that way), but he doesn't have a great track record there either.

And… he is 110% hurting the brand at this point.

some might say unlucky. ..

you do have a strange fixation with Nazi Germany. Nazi germany is long gone. Time to move on.

Unlucky because it displays a lack of moral compass..

Righteous ?

I suppose here's the thing and I've been fairly clear on this before.

I don't unless you do have record of the BYD ceo buying an entire social media platform to dictate the level and sway of public sentiment and speech in my country or Europe, or the UK or America. If this was the case then I wouldn't have bought one. I guess I care enough about the direction of politics and impact in my day to day life and the spaces around me to take this stance.

As soon as you can tell my BYD buys tik tok and starts flooding that platform with fake racism accounts with false news stories and impacting our countries politics and norms which we know please ping me il be all ears. Until then put the false equivalence down.

I understand some people simply don't care at all. But the very real reality Elon and his site and those individuals he promotes are actively burning buildings in this country and the UK right now. Pretending that there isn't an equation to these events and origins is particularly putting your head in the sand.

It impacts us all in real terms and not this crapola about the origins of bmw or vw 90 years ago...

It's crapola your talking about world war 2. I don't mean to question your intelligence but you weren't born. Neither probably were your parents . The equivalence is incredibly bizarre.

Actually no don't bother me you and musk have had it as a subject. Whenever he comes up you're right here defending him and then doing a merry dance of prove it. It's tiring. Please don't bother it'll be the same tired argument you have. Meanwhile this week musk has raised the spectre of getting twitter banned in the UK because of his role it inciting violence. Yet you'll pretend like you haven't a clue about any of it. Your words btw.

Here you are commenting extensively about equivalence with every post. Whilst at the same time claiming to have no notion of musks activities at all. Its a beautifully ridiculous standpoint frankly.

What's more is your saying like your proud of not knowing what he gets up to. So I don't even know why you'd bother pointing at any other CEOs without that context.

You can surely see how silly that is.