Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

71,930 acording to the CSO have no nationality thats normal !! .

Is it?

What are the figures from other countries and do they use the same data collection methods as the CSO?

And if you read what you shared it describes no-nationality as included those who didn't complete that section. I'm open to correction but isn't that just people who didn't fill out the form properly?

People are making big money off this it’s now an industry and won’t stop anytime soon.We don’t have an immigration policy beyond open doors. Simon came in like Mr. Busy but is now Mr. Anonymous churning out the tunes of DJ Spin - interesting times ahead. The chickens are coming home to roost at a rather alarming speed.

whether intentional or not this is classic far right wing fear mongering. Telling people to be afraid of something that hasn’t even happened and that the “entitled undocumented” will be to blame when it does and rioting far worse than what’s happening now in the UK will be the outcome.

Like those in areas such as Blackrock?

https://blackrock.ie/blackrock-business-community-newsletter-november-2023/

Blackrock is looking forward to welcoming new neighbours to Frascati Road housing over the coming weeks.  Blackrock Hall and the former Zurich House have been upgraded to provide accommodation for people seeking asylum in Ireland, as part of the Government’s International Protection Accommodation Service (IPAS).   The buildings have been fitted out to suit a mixture of families and single people, and include self catering facilities.  A maximum of 350 people could be accommodated here over time, and people will begin to move in gradually from early November.

People arriving into Ireland seeking asylum, are often highly skilled and highly educated.  Anybody can apply for permission to work after 5 months of being in the country.  Many of those who will be coming to Blackrock will have been here for a number of months and will soon be available for work and some will already be working.

A range of services and activities will be made available for the residents.  There are also a number of local sports clubs, organisations, and businesses that are keen to welcome our new neighbours and have offered assistance and services.

Blackrock is already a wonderfully diverse community.  Our seaside location, vibrant village, extensive parks and excellent public transport links combine to make this an excellent place to live.   We hope you will join us in extending a huge Céad Míle Fáilte to our newest neighbours.

A quick google search throws up only news stories from that time and 1 post om Reddit from a guy saying it is up and running ….or maybe Blackrock folk do alot for charity without wanting anyone to know

The big question is whether the Ulster unionists consider the Irish nationalists or the refugees/immigrants to be the bigger threat to their way of life in Northern Ireland. If the latter, then I can definitely see the two sides putting their historic differences aside and temporarily cooperating with each other to get the refugees and immigrants out of Northern Ireland. Because there is certainly a faction of Irish nationalists who are willing to fight against the refugees/immigrants as we saw earlier this year, and they can't really ignore what's going on in Northern Ireland so long as they care about immigration and there is still an open border with Northern Ireland allowing for said refugees and immigrants to travel through the border.

It is indeed up and running.

People arriving into Ireland seeking asylum, are often highly skilled and highly educated. Anybody can apply for permission to work after 5 months of being in the country

If they are highly skilled, then they should be entering the country through the legitimate work visa system and not abusing the asylum process.

These same people have passed through multiple safe countries, people who we have no idea who they really are, and we are to presume they are being genuine about their education achievements.

Yes, it's rather easy for people divided by hate to subsequently become united in hate when there is someone else to hate more. I suspect however that this unity would be tested pretty hard when it comes to the border though ....

I'm just going to try to dumb this right down as to the reason the majority of the country's population are unhappy with the situation, as seen in so many polls over the last two years which consistently give an avg of 75% of people having a problem with it.

In one simple sentence:

Ireland (and by extension it's people) is being grossly abused by thousands of people who are not genuine asylum seekers

It really is as simple as that - Every subsequent discussion point, of which there are many, stems from the results of that statement

People don't like being taken for a ride and make no mistake, that's what's happening - Y'know the way you'd feel if you were lining your car up to reverse into a parking spot and some ***t nips into the spot before you when you were obviously there first - well that's the way the Irish people are feeling right now. Many a car door got keyed by very reasonable people over the years for that craic - (there are other examples I could use, but you know what I mean)

Back to that simple sentence/statement above - As this is happening, the Govt gaslight you for over two years telling you 'you're a big racist' aided by a MS media that would struggle to find a micro testicle between them. Then you find a thread on a site where other reasonable people are discussing this blatant abuse of the asylum system and you feel you are not alone, you aren't going mad and you feel slightly calmer - This thread then attracts people that don't/won't see a problem and they tell you all we need to do is to build more houses for these asylum system abusers and again imply that you're likely a big racist too. Well, there goes that calm feeling you enjoyed for a while eh

There were minimal issues regarding immigration by a huge majority of the population pre the last few years - The Govt and media are at fault here, nobody else - Ireland was a very welcoming country but due to gross Govt incompetence, not now. Never, ever underestimate the role our media have played in this shambles. They should have asked the most basic of questions and kept asking them and reporting on these issues:

Why is the Govt sending out tweets in multiple languages telling everyone of our new and improved refugee policies?

Why did you pay the highest s/w rate of any EU country to UA refugees?

Why did you allow 10's of thousands of secondary movements of UA from other safe countries at a cost of hundreds of millions of €'s when you had no obligation to do so?

Why did the media give super-soft interviews to O'Gorman - Why did they constantly accept that ROG was never available for live on-air debates?

Although we did indeed see Sarah McInerney metaphorically remove Rodders spleen live on-air as she filed her nails - Nothing too damaging re the shambles though, she was let flex her skills just a tiny bit - This coincidently happened approx 10 days before the massive bailout was announced - I thought it may have been a warning shot, but what would I know about such things

The Govt were/are basically operating with impunity - If the media had done their job 2 years ago, I guarantee you, we would be in a vastly different place right now - Gript (small as they are) are doing that job and the Govt don't like it one bit. You just have to look at the Gript thread to see that. Literally all they have is playing the man (gript) and not the ball (the articles) - The more left leaning people are bitching about Gript without even realising they're doing the Govt's bidding (or maybe they do)

I can think of 725m reasons why RTE would be onboard with everything the Govt does. It's not quite as clear-cut when it comes to the other media outlets and what they get in return, although I have noticed an increase in 'Brought to you by the Govt of Ire' ads on Newstalk etc - Pat Kenny and Barry Whyte used to do some great reports on the asylum shambles, but not anymore sadly as it looks like they were knobbled

We've met some interesting and colourful characters over the last couple of years both on and off these threads - We've met the likes of St Olivia of Canal as her search for a man continues, mad Bernie 'only one toilet!' lady and her deportation dodging Sierra Leone partner - We've heard of the lady from South Africa that had to come to Ireland for asylum as her hubby was giving her a few slaps - We were told here that if we stopped letting these asylum abusers into the country we need to start shutting hospitals! Gas. We've also had the pleasure of being lectured to by the goddess Catherine Day as she told us to do more (from her enormous mansion), All hail Catherine Day

We've listened to the NGO heads talk about our new friends arriving escaping from torture, persecution, raging wars, the horrors of 1cm deep potholes and bland food as we tried to stifle our giggles

Finally, we regularly hear from our Govt supporting friends (cunningly disguised as pearl clutching do-gooders) in damage limitation mode. They're tremendous fun in fairness

You can see it in the US a bit , Im guessing via analysis Im following that Black Males or Hispanic males in particular are going to switch and vote Republican in noticeable numbers because they are against open borders as it affects them directly. The scenes in NI were sending a signal that working class people are having enough of it too.

it will be interesting to see if it affects politics here next year but it maybe too early , at the end of the day houses and taxes dont grow on trees, a lot of deluded politicians and luvvies out there

I said “far right” once in my original post. What are you talking about ffs?

And yes it is fear mongering. In essence the post I replied to said there’d be a global recession with FDI pull out here and people would lose their jobs and yet the “entitled undocumented” immigrants would still get their benefits resulting in riots far worse than the UK are seeing now. And that’s not fear mongering, sure.

does it matter? every society has under achievers , working class under achievers dont want competition for housing and welfare etc. Lefty activists are under achievers too which is why they take out their frustrations by displaying toxic empathy and narcissism and are a danger for wider society