Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

Out of curiosity what media outlets do you trust yourself for your news?

I feel every sports body should clearly detail what the criteria is for competing in their sports and what tests they carry out to ensure those criteria are met. But at the end of the day the IBA don't have to do any of that, I do accept that.

If Imane did the test, it would be cleared up if nothing to hide

And so we await to see what happens next, when Imane Khelif & Lin Yu-Ting enter the ring again in the coming days. Will other boxers pull-out of the bouts or what?

I certainly don't see any movement from the IOC, who seem to be doubling down on their position that the two DSD boxers are without question eligible to box in the women's catagory.

which is why it should be in a sporting rules thread not a trans thread

xxy’s? xx males? I the cases of xx males the only difference with xy males is they tend to be a little shorter and infertile. Other than that they experience makes puberty and appear masculine and have fully functioning male reproductive organs. This thread will see them competing with women?

Your reading comprehension needs work. There is nothing wrong that sentence, it's stating a negative.

Why is it a problem when Trans females are just as weak or weaker that Cis Females? As noted above.

Interesting tweet just now by the IOC, basically saying that we are indeed looking at a case DSD athletes.

Well, both the IBA and the IOC have a long history of corruption so you can't really query the IBA's results while relying on the IOC's simple passport and document checking. Would the IOC accept a national team providing equivalent documentation to prove that an athlete was drug-free or do they insist on their own drug-testing regimen? We all know the answer to that.

It's also a false problem for a more practical reason: it's perfectly normal when you have two incompatible test results, both potentially problematic for various reasons, to just do another test somewhere else. That's also the basis of the existing appeals process.

Because both boxers had the opportunity at the time to appeal to an independent court of arbitration which would have done new tests and issued a final decision. They both failed to do so (one of them did actually begin the process but then withdrew it early on in the proceedings). That is what gives the IBA results their legal value - the absence of an appeal against them within the allotted time. That's a choice both athletes and their teams made.

But more than that: they could do a new test now, at an independent laboratory of their choice. It's a 5-second cheek swab, not a strip search of internal cavities. 82% of the female athletes asked about whether or not to maintain the cheek swab sex test back when it was still the norm voted to keep it. (It was dropped anyway). If these two athletes are women, it's odd that even after all the controversy over their sex, they're so strongly against sex testing that they won't hear of it. Even though it would solve their public image problems immediately?

Of course there's a very obvious reason why they might not want to do that. I'm not assuming that's the only possible reason, but I haven't seen any credible alternatives suggested, so I'm going with it being the likeliest for now.

Indeed, but tell that to the BBC who put up TWO trans women to discuss the Khelif/Carini fight on Thursday's "The World Tonight" - not a single woman was consulted. (The "balance" provided being that one of them, an ex boxer, said women should absolutely not have to fight men, while the other, a so-called researcher who published a well-dodgy study some years back set up to prove that TW "lose" their male advantage due to hormone treatment) said it's all very complicated and we can't possibly tell.)

AFAICS the trans aspect is being wedged into this by trans activists and "allies". Joanne Rowling for instance said right at the start that this has nothing to do with trans people and that the problem is that what we saw in that fight was a man beating a woman. Not that the BBC asked her or any other woman of course, not even a female boxer.