Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Ah I remember the good 'ol days when the IrelandIsFull brigade used to pretend to care about the homeless.

You know what? I think it'll take a leaf out of your book.

There's a little homeless camp close to me and I know by the Dublin accents some of them aren't from around here. I'm off down there later to barge my way in and give them a good aggressive questioning about who they are, where they're from, and what they're doing in 'my' community.

All of which will be posted online because who cares about them trying to live with a bit of dignity? Or their loved ones seeing the hate comments?

I know my rights and I'm entitled to do that to the homeless, f**k them and their families.

https://www.midlands103.com/news/midlands-news/drop-in-garda-national-immigration-bureau-while-asylum-seeker-numbers-remain-high/

https://www.newstalk.com/news/a-lot-more-can-be-done-sinn-fein-slams-incomprehensible-garda-immigration-cutbacks-1749330

Imagine fewer that 100 Gardaí assigned to the National Immigration. This is just beyond incompetence by our Government at this stage. There's something really rotten at the core of all of this.

If we believe SF numbers just 948 deportation orders were issued to the 5,711 people who saw their application for asylum in Ireland refused last year.

Meanwhile, just 52 of those orders were enforced by the GNIB.

It just gets worse and worse, i'm sure all these illegals would be good boys/girls and leave voluntary, I'm sure they wouldn't lie to us

whatever floats your boat dude

How much is the fare from Belfast airport? to live in a tent and collect 30 odd euro a week….what's the craic??

The Tonight Show just the perfect example why the Greens are going to be destroyed in the general election, this party is abomination and fingers crossed they'll be cease to exist after the election.

ah she's thinking for votes….

Same migrates probably helped to vote her in

VM missing a open goal here - They've been playing the softly softly pro-government approach on immigration for a long time, similar to RTE - Huge bailout given to RTE and f/all to VM. They were well pissed off about it - If I were them I'd be letting John McGuirk, Peadar Tóibín, Michael McDowell, Michael McNamara and Niall Boylan present the Tonight show on a rotating basis for the foreseeable future

Yes, this is well known. Sure they often admit that.

Here is an example of a bogus AS doing exactly that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellie_Kisyombe

She travelled to Ireland on a student visa in 2010.[1] She then travelled to the United Kingdom to apply for asylum there. After being arrested there, she claimed asylum in Ireland.[3] She was placed in direct provision and was housed in the centre in Ballyhaunis, County Mayo. She was later diagnosed with depression. She has twin children, a son and a daughter, who joined her in Ireland.[4] In July 2019, she was granted leave to remain in Ireland[5] and subsequently took a trip back home to Malawi.[6]

You'll have no problem sharing some links verifying this 'well documented phenomenon' so?

So lets get this straight. One in every hundred asylum seekers who are refused asylum are deported. Bloody hell. What's the point in even having an immigration department?

They may as well let the whole continents of Asia and Africa into Ireland for all good the Irish asylum process is doing.

Surely your baiting here?

So because crime still happens, we just let those not allowed in the country to actually stay here cause well its not priority?

This image is the last 6 years of spending of on deportations. But look at the number of orders issues to the number actually deported. So dont come here telling people crime is an issue and understaffing when its all on the Gov and their policies

Some very high costs there in places but I still wouldn't think that an apt comparison.

By focusing on a deporting a small number of people who we deem a priority, I'd guess the cost to be much lower.

For a start I think it fair to assume that most deported to Gardai are those well known to them or already in custody. So they don't have to go tracking down a person who might have gone underground.

After that, at a smaller scale people can be put on commercial flights, so lower cost there.

But I'd think the biggest saving we currently see is that I'd imagine there's less push back from receiving states when dealing with smaller numbers. From how difficult we know it can be to affect large scale deportations, I'd assume it's a lot easier persuading a receiving state to accept 2-3 people than say a thousand.

This is all quite speculative but if we lock back to the McDowell days when deportations were a focus (including deporting Irish citizens!), costs were reported as being very high, and not that many deportations were actually completed.

Most of those who were actually deported at that time were to states about to join the EU, or to Nigeria, with whom we had an agreement at the time. I'd doubt that agreement is still in place given that Nigeria is now reported as a country reluctant to accept deportees.

I'm sure they sometimes do and there's all sorts of valid reasons why it might be safe and worthwhile in some circumstances.

As for it being widespread that people pop back and forth and have 'bases' in other countries, I'll consider it when I see some, um you know, evidence.

Yes, this is why I contend that close to 100% of the 140,000 AS over the last twenty years have made bogus claims.

I don't blame them (well I partly do, as they did submit a bogus claim).

I blame us, the soft fools, for believing them.

There is a part of Irish society that wants to accept bogus AS, even if the AS openly admits their claim is bogus.