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The 2024 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    That did make me laugh 😂

    "Exploited the rules to the max to put players anywhere on the pitch"

    Ya make it sound like they put the ball down their trousers to stop the other team getting it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Its clear they need to tackle the continuous hand passing and the backwards/lateral play

    And it's hardly rocket science to make changes here

    Also very easy to make changes to stop everyone getting back behind the ball



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,198 ✭✭✭PressRun


    People seem to still have it in their heads that Galway play free flowing, attacking football like in the 90s, when that has not been the case in a long, long time and the evidence is there in front of everyone's eyes. Typical that Armagh are being blamed for the game being "dour", as if they forced Galway to play any way other than the exact way they've been playing all year. Galway were just as defensive as Armagh yesterday (and have been all year), the only difference is that Armagh actually showed a little bit more adventure and kept their heads at crucial moments.

    The fact is, most teams are playing like this now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    There was a stat somewhere that Armagh had only one third of possession in the first half, although they had the same score at half time. Armagh took much less time to get a score than Galway. Even by modern standards Galway endlessly played the ball around the 40-45m area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Armagh had the much easier draw in Ulster wheras Donegal had to beat both Derry in Derry and Tyrone to get to the final. Donegal also drew with Armagh in the league in Armagh and beat them in Croke Park in a league final and in Clones in the Ulster Final this year. Fair play to Armagh they had a good win yesterday, but I would not see that as them being the team of the year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Every team including Kerry and Dublin play a very similar style so I wouldn't be too critical of any team for their style.

    I wonder what simple rules they can introduce to open up the game.

    Maybe that the full back line and forward line have to stay within their own half or the 60.

    Ideally there should be more space for the forwards to show their skill. At the moment we're just seeing a slow cautious build up with handpassing and then eventually a shot from distance.

    Goal chances have become very rare and goals even rarer.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah there has got to be leaders on the field too. Kelly was on the field at that stage and should have had a word with Walsh. When you are a point down and you get a 45m free you have to take it on. For Walsh to kick the ball sideways was criminal. I do agree that Joyce is the biggest culprit but lads on that Galway team didn't want to take responsibility. Gleeson kills that ball every time and it doesn't get dropped into the keepers hands. It's probably and 80 percent kick for the lad. So for that to happen was crazy. Great players win finals like that. Comer and Walsh are not great players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    They can decide on a minimum number of players that have to stay in the forward half

    Also limit the number of consecutive hand passes

    Also a rule change on moving the ball backwards in forward half, not sure what there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    ah behave yourself , what odds were they to win the all Ireland before ? 20/1 ? Higher?Course they are the team of the year, bleating on about the provincial championships doesn’t change that. I can’t see how huge underdogs winning the by far biggest trophy doesn’t make them team of the year to be honest. Whatever about provincial but talking about the league is laughable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    The team of the year is the team that wins the AI

    The best team in the country can be ANother team



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,654 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Ah yes football is over it's all terrible we need a rule change to make it better for the spectator - what do the amateur players of the sport think?

    Who cares! This is about the entertainment of middle aged men who barely play at all

    Genuine question - what do those proposing rule changes want the game to look like? Plenty of complaining about too much this too much that - what does the football of the future look like? Any examples?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    who said they were the best team in the country? Thats fairly impossible to say at the moment anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think banning passing back to the keeper and that the full forward line and full back line can't leave their half is enough.

    Although to be fair lots of teams already try to leave two forwards up but their man makes a run forward so they have to follow. So you end up with 29 men in one half of the field and then the keeper joins them so it's ridiculous.

    I think removing 6 players and the keeper would free up a lot of space. Teams will probably play a sweeper so that's 8 players who'll stay in one half.

    The same will happen at the other end so that leaves 14 players who move freely up and down the pitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Was watching some Olympic handball yesterday evening - at one stage the ref raised their hand as a warning for "passive play", I presume if they had continued, it would have been a free the other way but instead the team in possession moved forward and scored.

    I don't think the concept would work in football for a few reasons, not least because of the subjective nature of it (I imagine there'd be a lot of whinging about it) but when I heard the term "passive play" I immediately thought that that's what we want to see less of in Gealic Football.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Easy answered , done already

    More kick passing

    Less men behind the ball in defensive half

    Less continuous hand passing

    Less moving ball backwards in forward half

    Easy enough implement some changes there

    I'm sure theres plenty more suggestions out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Dunno I didn't

    I was making the point that the team of the year should be by definition the team that wins the AI

    You can argue after that about the best team in the country which may be another team



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    It would but more difficult to implement at all club games



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭C__MC


    The rules changes will only strengthen the stronger teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭gaffer91


    Easy, less handpassing, more kickpassing, more high fielding, speedier attacks and turnovers, more shooting/scoring from distance. Very easy to see the things people want more of. This isn't exhaustive either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Social Media and Twitter have been a major negative for grumpy lads moaning about Football since the early 10s.

    I find there to be a lot of Munster Know-It-alls constantly slating the game.

    Its funny though that those that do more often than not proclaim themselves to be Munster Rugby or Liverpool FC Supporters.

    I wonder if you pointed out to them that those 2 teams didn't exactly set the world alight winning European trophies would they hold those up to the same standards they do with Football. I wouldn't be banking on it. They played the game as they saw fit and won when it mattered.

    FWIW I enjoyed a lot of Football played this year.

    The club final was good, as was the League Final, the league overall, the 20s final, the Provincial Finals had their moments and yesterdays final whilst not one for the ages had some exceptional long range scoring and the most unlikely winner in years.

    That's not to say there was some instantly forgettable games like Kerry-Derry but there was some decent games that the know it alls gloss over all too easily.

    I'd be interested in some of the new rules proposed by the FRC but the constant football is finished have become the most tiresome cliche in all of sport.

    Also I'd say with Gaelic Football above every other sport the casual viewer has no appreciation as to why games develop as they do.

    People give out but there was no praise of both defences and the long range scoring.

    There's always a meltdown if a game isn't like Dublin v Mayo in the 2010s.

    At least there was a good analysis by Andy Moran on the game on OTB this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Improving the game is the important goal

    It'll probably tilt the balance of power more in favour of stronger counties alright



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    stolen from Reddit but I thought this was funny yesterday

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,208 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Figure out what keeps supporters supporting teams like Armagh etc and stop trying to supply or design a game for the fickle support that will dessert teams if they aren't winning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I really enjoyed the game, and really enjoyed the style of play. Must be something wrong with me….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭kerry_man15


    What about only scores from kicking. It is football after all. Not a fan of the ball being fisted over for points or goals like yesterday's being palmed into the net. Football seems to have lost the art of kicking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Passive play rules won't work

    You need clearly defined rules to keep it simple and avoid whining and dispute



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    That's a nonsense post

    Not sure if u realise that 😁



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