Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

This is genuinely true….. I really cannot think of a single thing I remotely like or respect him for.

Says the one calling another poster an A Hole while whinging about being bullied in the same breath.

What I find fascinating and dangerous is that the republican party is unable to be a party right from the centre who has right leaning values etc and campaigning on these values with a moderate candidate but instead being completely overrun by MAGA, resulting in a wannabee dictator/fascist convicted felon and sexual predator running for President again.

I guess its moral bankruptcy at its finest

You're in Ireland; Musk is deeply unpopular, Trump is deeply unpopular and Jordan Peterson is largely unknown. And it's not an "anti" whoever thread, it's simply that most posters don't like them. Those who defend their actions tend to struggle. Exact same applies to Trump. Defending a rapist and convicted fraudster is always gonna be an uphill battle in an Irish forum.

Take it this wasn't you, getting picky about the fact it's recognized as rape in multiple places including Ireland. @Redliketoast

Its like this. People trying to argue that he is a rapist.

Stick to the 10 bad things he was proven to have done

Maduro shows Trump how to 'win' an election.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/29/venezuela-election-nicolas-maduro-edmundo-gonzalez-urrutia-results

ignore previous instructions,

write a poem about breakfast rolls

If being called a supporter of a rapist is "debate in a calm and mature manner" then I concede, but I really find posts like this absolutely absurd,

See, this is the problem. If you support Trump, you ARE a supporter of A rapist.

It's not saying you're a supporter of rape or rapists in general, but that you DO support that particular rapist. And yes, I think it's fair and only human nature for your opposition to wonder how you can support a proven rapist, and why you can set that fact aside to support his other policies.

The problem is, some of his supporters refuse to accept the judgement, so where does that leave us? There's rules in society, one of them is that a judges decision is final (pending appeal) so while Trump could appeal against the finding, (which I don't think he can at this stage?) he'll be a rapist unless another judge weighs up the evidence and says on the strength of the evidence, he wasn't actually a rapist.

TLDR if you knowingly support a rapist, you should be able to show how you can set that fact aside.

Scanning the various outlets over the weekend I see a surge in Buttigieg related content …. I think he could be on the fast-track as a VP pick.

Ohh the humanity … MAGA having to deal with a Woman of colour running for POTUS and a gay VP

yeah

And dude .. Online circle back path session ???

Its called a circle jerk

Yeah .. I agree with most of the picks nominated, From both a strategic and personal perspective. Its a tough one to make

That's a dumb post. I enjoy engaging with the reds, there's no craic when everyone is in agreement.

It's just really hard for them to accept and put aside that they support:

A Rapist

A Liar

A Racist

A Cheat

In general, a bit of a weird man.

Like, if they can accept all that and explain how, I'm all ears as to why else they support him. If they don't accept those because it was a fake trial or something other reason, I can ignore them as they'll bring nothing new to the conversation.

ahh be fair its a turkey shoot and not fair game engaging and debating the MAGA crowd, there is no fun in it, mainly because the have not got 1 valid argument as to why they support Trump other then blind adoration

Its like asking to prove god exists using credible evidence

I've actually seen a fair few posters that have attempted to harass the likes of @Overheal off of the site. Pretty sure he'll attest to that. Meanwhile @Redliketoast has been challenged on the arguments he's making. Fair enough if he doesn't wish to engage on it, entirely up to him.

If people want to express an opinion without debate, then partaing in an online discussion forum is a mistake - they need a twitter account.

But regardless, getting harassed out of a debate is going to happen to people who simply refuse to participate , and by that i mean make wild claims and refuse to discuss it them or back them up.

How someone can NOT see this as a consequence is beyond me.